Starting Problem

[aDiDaS85]

It's with a 92 Prelude Si 5 Speed, 128k miles, no modifications.

The most recent repair was a complete(almost) transmission rebuild along
with the pressure plate in the clutch. The mechanic needs to tear apart my
transmission again to replace a cage barring in the transmission. He put
the old one in, thinking it wouldn't hurt.

Since he didn't put a new cage barring in, 1st and reverse stick badly, so
I've been shifting into 2nd from a dead stop and accelerating from there.
On occasion, I won't give it enough gas, and the car will clunk out. Here's
where the problem comes in: the car will just sit there, not even trying to
turn over, unless I get out and give it a quick push. Sometimes it will
give in and start if I take the key in and out and try to start it about
10 - 15 times.

It only does it in that situation, though. If it's been sitting overnight,
or in the sun all day, it starts just fine.

Is is the battery, alternator, starter? I dunno.

I appreciate any and all info.


TI

 

['Curly Q. Links']

It's with a 92 Prelude Si 5 Speed, 128k miles, no modifications.

The most recent repair was a complete(almost) transmission rebuild along
with the pressure plate in the clutch. The mechanic needs to tear apart my
transmission again to replace a cage barring in the transmission. He put
the old one in, thinking it wouldn't hurt.

Since he didn't put a new cage barring in, 1st and reverse stick badly, so
I've been shifting into 2nd from a dead stop and accelerating from there.
On occasion, I won't give it enough gas, and the car will clunk out. Here's
where the problem comes in: the car will just sit there, not even trying to
turn over, unless I get out and give it a quick push. Sometimes it will
give in and start if I take the key in and out and try to start it about
10 - 15 times.

It only does it in that situation, though. If it's been sitting overnight,
or in the sun all day, it starts just fine.

Is is the battery, alternator, starter? I dunno.

I appreciate any and all info.

TI

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Please clarify: Some people say 'turn over', but do they mean 'fire'?

If your engine spins (cranks is a good term) but doesn't 'fire up',
especially in the temperature conditions you've described, it's usually
the main relay.

Instead of putting the key in and out, just leave the key in the II
(run) position and smack the dash with your fist. If you hear the relay
run the fuel pump for about three seconds, then stop, it's definately
your main relay.

'Curly'

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['Curly Q. Links']

It's with a 92 Prelude Si 5 Speed, 128k miles, no modifications.

The most recent repair was a complete(almost) transmission rebuild along
with the pressure plate in the clutch. The mechanic needs to tear apart my
transmission again to replace a cage barring in the transmission. He put
the old one in, thinking it wouldn't hurt.

Since he didn't put a new cage barring in, 1st and reverse stick badly, so
I've been shifting into 2nd from a dead stop and accelerating from there.
On occasion, I won't give it enough gas, and the car will clunk out. Here's
where the problem comes in: the car will just sit there, not even trying to
turn over, unless I get out and give it a quick push. Sometimes it will
give in and start if I take the key in and out and try to start it about
10 - 15 times.

It only does it in that situation, though. If it's been sitting overnight,
or in the sun all day, it starts just fine.

Is is the battery, alternator, starter? I dunno.

I appreciate any and all info.

TI

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aDiDaS85,

There are interlocks that prevent you from cranking your engine. The
clutch pedal has one, and (I think) the tranny has one to prove that
it's in a neutral position, and the ignition switch could just be bad,
condidering there was a recall of about a million North American Hondas.
Have you asked your Honda dealer to check you VIN for any outstanding
upgrades / recalls / whatever they call them??

In the mean time, you should learn how to do a low-speed roll start. It
might come in handy, and be much simpler if you live in hilly country.


'Curly'

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[Tom Wilson]

It's with a 92 Prelude Si 5 Speed, 128k miles, no modifications.

The most recent repair was a complete(almost) transmission rebuild along
with the pressure plate in the clutch. The mechanic needs to tear apart my
transmission again to replace a cage barring in the transmission. He put
the old one in, thinking it wouldn't hurt.

Since he didn't put a new cage barring in, 1st and reverse stick badly, so
I've been shifting into 2nd from a dead stop and accelerating from there.
On occasion, I won't give it enough gas, and the car will clunk out. Here's
where the problem comes in: the car will just sit there, not even trying to
turn over, unless I get out and give it a quick push. Sometimes it will
give in and start if I take the key in and out and try to start it about
10 - 15 times.

It only does it in that situation, though. If it's been sitting overnight,
or in the sun all day, it starts just fine.

Is is the battery, alternator, starter? I dunno.

I appreciate any and all info.


TI

I agree with the intelligent poster that said the starting problem is related to
the transmission problem that you mentioned. You should mention these
starting problems to the mechanic that is working on the transmission. He
may be able to fix the starting problem for you in the process of fixing
the transmission problem. In most cases, when your engine or transmission
develops a problem immediately after it was worked on--the problem was
caused because the repair was not done correctly. Believe me--I speak from
experience.