Why automatic?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by S.Crab, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. S.Crab

    S.Crab Guest

    I ask this as a new-car shopper who is curious at the lack of
    availability of manual transmissions:

    Why is there a seemingly overwhelming preference for automatic
    transmissions? Is it that people don't want to be bothered with
    manuals, don't want to learn how to drive them, or for some other
    reason? I personally think manuals are more fun and offer more control
    of the vehicle, but that's just one man's opinion.

    I don't mean this question to be condescending in any way--I'm just
    genuinely curious.

    Thanks in advance for your responses.
     
    S.Crab, Dec 1, 2006
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    Larry in AZ Guest

    All of the above...
     
    Larry in AZ, Dec 1, 2006
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    S.Crab Guest

    Nevermind. This is essentially a redundant post.

    http://cartalk.com/board/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=317780&an=0&page=0
     
    S.Crab, Dec 1, 2006
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    Tegger Guest


    Most people in North America don't want to fight with a gearshift and
    clutch, especially women. And since there's nothing stopping them from
    buying slushboxes, they do.

    In some other parts of the world manuals are still significant. Probably
    has to do with pecuniary penalties for buying an automatic. Governments
    love that sort of thing. It's a "luxury tax", y'know.
     
    Tegger, Dec 1, 2006
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    Brian Smith Guest

    I have driven manual transmission equipped vehicles for many decades, I
    prefer automatics at this stage of my life.
    There is nothing complicated about driving a manual transmission
    equipped vehicle. If a person can walk and chew gum at the same time it's
    not a big deal. Wait! There's the problem. {;^)
    In city traffic it is much easier to go with the flow with an automatic
    transmision than a manual transmission (all the stop and crawl).
    They do for some instances, but overall it's easier to drive an
    automatic transmission equipped vehicle.
    You can only find out answers, when you ask questions.
    No problem.
     
    Brian Smith, Dec 1, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    because modern autos are faster and more economical. there's also a
    safety argument - both hands on the wheel at all times as well as the
    ability to program the shift pattern to better cope with emergency
    situations. go drive a modern auto - they're quite effective!
     
    jim beam, Dec 1, 2006
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    Bucky Guest

    Same reason why most people take the elevator instead of stairs:
    easier, more convenient. And who has a third hand when one's got the
    cell phone, the other's got a coffee, and the knee's steering the car?
    =)

    Me? I prefer to take the stairs, and I also prefer manuals for the fun
    of it.
     
    Bucky, Dec 1, 2006
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    Craig Guest

    One main reason I can think of, is the massive amount of traffic in
    most urban areas. It can be a pain creeping along for 10 or miles in
    1st or 2nd gear.

    But I will only drive an automatic if I have no choice. Both my wife
    and I prefer manual.

    We were looking for a new car for her recently and wanted to look at
    teh BMW 3 series, but none of the dealers in Orange County had a manual
    version for us to test drive. So we went back to Saab.
     
    Craig, Dec 1, 2006
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    Matt Ion Guest

    I love my MT car, but for a work vehicle, I prefer an automatic, because I do
    have to spend a lot of time in traffic, and the clutch leg gets rather tired
    before long.
     
    Matt Ion, Dec 2, 2006
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    As if most automatic drivers really use BOTH hands on the wheel...;more
    likely they use the other hand to hold a cellphone,cigarette,food,or dangle
    the spare hand out the window,or rest it on the passenger seatback.

    And enable "unintended accelleration" accidents.
     
    Jim Yanik, Dec 2, 2006
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    Dave Garrett Guest

    I prefer manuals too, but automatics have gotten a lot better in recent
    years than they used to be. An interesting trend in high-end exotic cars
    like Ferraris and Lamborghinis is that more buyers now seem to be opting
    for the F1-style "paddle shifter" transmissions than manuals - granted,
    these really aren't automatics in the true sense of the term, but it's a
    telling development that probably foreshadows even less interest in
    manuals once the technology begins to trickle down to more affordable
    cars.

    AutoWeek recently tested the new Porsche 911 Turbo, and the Tiptronic-
    equipped model was faster than the manual from 0-60.

    Dave
     
    Dave Garrett, Dec 2, 2006
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    JXStern Guest

    Acura TSX gets better mileage ratings with the auto.

    It's an American tradition since, oh, 1950s.

    In twenty years you'll be lucky if the cars have manual steering or
    brakes, or if they do, you'll have to have an "expert's license" to
    use them.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Dec 2, 2006
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    Joe LaVigne Guest

    This is a big one to me...

    I own a MT, and I love it around here (Buffalo, NY). I work at night, and
    even in the day, rarely encounter horrible traffic. But, recently, I had
    to go to Toronto. Coming home, I was stuck in about 60 miles of rush-hour
    stop and go traffic, and man did I wish I'd had an Auto for that
    trip.

    Seeing as how I live in Buffalo, I'll probably continue to buy MT's, but
    when I have to go to a really massive city in the future, I'll rent a car...
     
    Joe LaVigne, Dec 2, 2006
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  14. I'm mostly an MT guy, but at the moment the only manual in my life is in my
    work truck. Our department heavily favors manuals because they are less
    likely to strand the driver in the wilderness (we go some places where a tow
    truck couldn't retrieve the truck). In extremis we can cut a hole through
    the bell housing, drill a hole through the pressure plate and clutch disk,
    and put a bolt in the clutch.

    I dislike manuals in town, though, and they can be trickier than automatics
    on slippery roads. I've never seen a snow cat with a manual tranny; momentum
    is too critical. Sometimes that is true for cars in ice and slush as well.

    Two of our cars at home now have no transmissions - they are Toyota hybrids.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 2, 2006
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    L Alpert Guest

    Try commuting the bottlenecked traffic in CA. Stop and go freeway traffic
    for 3 hours a day is enough to make anyone with a manual tranny curse the
    day they bought it.
     
    L Alpert, Dec 2, 2006
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  16. Yes, all of the above. Add that most cars end on the scrap heap once the
    warranty has run out and the auto box fails, because of the cost or repair.

    I haven't bought a new car in years, and prefer manuals, because thay can
    make all sorts of bad noises and sound like a gravel crusher, and still
    work. Automatics are fine when new and have a manufacturer's warranty, but
    when anything goes wrong you usually end up stuck on the side of the road,
    and at the financial mercy of the "rebuilders".

    SD
     
    Stewart DIBBS, Dec 2, 2006
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    Robert Guest

    Personally, I would prefer an automatic as a daily driver...heading to
    work in the mornings I'm so tired I can barely remember the right
    roads, let alone have to shift. But on the weekends, as a sort of
    sporty car, I would definitely prefer a manual. That's why I have a
    manumatic...it is truely the best transmission option I have ever
    driven; it's like the best of both worlds.
     
    Robert, Dec 3, 2006
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