Which Oil: 5W-20, or 5W-30 Semi-synth

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Chief_Billy, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. Chief_Billy

    Chief_Billy Guest

    I live/drive in Central Florida, where Summer temps average 85-95 max.
    My dealer is
    claiming that this is an ‘extreme’ climate condition and wanting to
    use 5W-30 semi-synthetic blend oil, vs. the OEM recommended 5W-20, in
    my ’08 CR-V. I disagree, and would like to know what others think.

    FYI: I’ve driven my 01 Civic 250,000 highway miles in this climate
    using the recommended 5W-20, and it STILL gets 38-40 mpg on I-95 at 70
    mph.
     
    Chief_Billy, Jun 10, 2008
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    Dan C Guest

    I think your dealer is an asshole, who's trying to make an extra buck by
    selling you "semi-synthetic" oil that you don't need.

    Tell him to **** off and put the 5W-20 in.
     
    Dan C, Jun 10, 2008
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    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Semi-synyhretic will last longer. Why not try it once and see?
     
    Tony Hwang, Jun 10, 2008
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    nick Guest


    To a MM system it won't last any longer than having conventional oil
    in it. Putting in synthetic or semi-synthetic oil is more of if you
    want to than anything else.
     
    nick, Jun 10, 2008
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  5. I live/drive in Central Florida, where Summer temps average 85-95 max.
    My dealer is
    claiming that this is an ‘extreme’ climate condition and wanting to
    use 5W-30 semi-synthetic blend oil, vs. the OEM recommended 5W-20, in
    my ’08 CR-V. I disagree, and would like to know what others think.

    FYI: I’ve driven my 01 Civic 250,000 highway miles in this climate
    using the recommended 5W-20, and it STILL gets 38-40 mpg on I-95 at 70
    mph.



    First rule for pilots: Always believe your instruments.

    First rule for auto maintenance: Always do what the Owner's Manual says...
     
    Boogie Woogie, Jun 10, 2008
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    Dano58 Guest

    Dealer is full of crap. By his calculation, then, the entire East
    Coast is an 'extreme climate'? Have himput in exactly what the
    manufacturer recommends.

    Dan D
    '07 Ody EX
    Central NJ USA
     
    Dano58, Jun 10, 2008
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    Tegger Guest

    wrote in @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:


    What does Honda say?

    Hint: The dealer is NOT Honda. Believe it or not.
     
    Tegger, Jun 11, 2008
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  8. Chief_Billy

    Chief_Billy Guest

    I can't seem to find a method of contacting the Honda USA Help Desk
    directly... ;)
     
    Chief_Billy, Jun 11, 2008
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  9. Chief_Billy

    Chief_Billy Guest

    I think your right. In fact, I might just do the oil change myself and
    document it to
    fulfill the maintenance/warranty requirements.
     
    Chief_Billy, Jun 11, 2008
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    howard Guest

    It's in your owners manual. But here ya go....800-999-1009

    Howard
    P.S If you send me an email I'll give you some important info on this topic.
    Write to howardh1951athotmail.com
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    <Chief_Billy@h
    otmail.com> wrote in message
    I can't seem to find a method of contacting the Honda USA Help Desk
    directly... ;)
     
    howard, Jun 11, 2008
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  11. Chief_Billy

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in


    Honda told you what to use in your Owner's Manual, which I assume you've
    read.

    The dealer is an independent company that owns a franchise purchased from
    Honda. They are free to attempt to sell you whatever magick potions they
    figure you can be manipulated into spending money on, whether Honda likes
    it or not.

    Honda is an especially diligent automaker, so what they officially
    recommend is not to be readily sloughed off.

    If you no longer have an Owner's Manual, you can get one for free, directly
    from Honda (albeit as PDFs). Just ask how.
     
    Tegger, Jun 11, 2008
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    Dan C Guest

    I've been changing my own oil for 30 years, largely because I am then
    completely sure what oil and what filter went into it. Peace of mind is
    worth a little effort.
     
    Dan C, Jun 12, 2008
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  13. Chief_Billy

    Chief_Billy Guest


    I have the Owners Manual, but in the Mainenance section it does not
    give 'due dates' for many of the
    service procedures. With my 01 Civic, I know exactly what needs to be
    done and when. I think with the CR-V
    it is supposed to pop up on the display with a letter A, B,
    1,2,3..etc. each of which indicates one or more maintenance procedures
    (A = change oil). I hate the computerized maintenance notifications.
    I'm an EE, and am used to knowing and following
    tight preventive maintenance procedures and schedules, and knowing
    exactly what is due and when.
     
    Chief_Billy, Jun 13, 2008
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    Tegger Guest

    wrote in



    Maybe you are used to that, but vast hordes of unwashed proletarians are
    not. It is for them that the Maintenance Minder was devised. Poor
    maintenance is the #1 factor in excessive emissions.

    Personally, I believe that if federal emissions limits weren't screwed down
    so far, and if the automakers weren't saddled with federal emissions
    warranty requirements, that Maintenance Minder would not be in your car
    right now.
     
    Tegger, Jun 13, 2008
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    Polfus Guest

    Hell, I'll take it if it means we get a 15-year Emissions Warranty w/PZEV
    vehicles (only 5 states have it so far IIRC) like the '08 Accord.

    FIFTEEN year warranty is killer, especially since I read it covers a lot of
    parts in the emissions system.
     
    Polfus, Jun 13, 2008
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    Tegger Guest



    Guess who pays for all that? It's not Honda.
     
    Tegger, Jun 14, 2008
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    Jason Guest

    Who is it then? Who does Honda send the bill to after they pay whoever fixes
    it, say if something happens in 2019?

    I imagine you're gonna say taxpayers, but how does that work when if they
    repair something on their car?

    Peace,
    Jason
     
    Jason, Jun 14, 2008
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    Jason Guest

    Sorry...I meant "...I imagine you're gonna say taxpayers- but how does that
    work when a Honda dealership, for example, repairs something on one of their
    cars?"

    Peace,
    Jason
     
    Jason, Jun 14, 2008
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    Tegger Guest



    YOU. You pay for it in an increased purchase price for the car.
     
    Tegger, Jun 14, 2008
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    Jason Guest

    Aarrgg...yeah..the '08 Accord did take a bite out of my wallet.

    Peace,
    Jason
     
    Jason, Jun 14, 2008
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