what's a good source of replacement half axles?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Remco, Oct 26, 2006.

  1. Remco

    Remco Guest

    I need to replace the passenger half axle on our 95 impreza - the inner
    u-joint is getting really bad. From what I've heard, the best way to do
    this is just replace the whole axle. (correct me if I am wrong,

    There are a lot of sources for half axles, including on ebay. I don't
    want to do this job more than once so what's a good source reliable
    source of rebuilds? I take it most places require a core?

    Remco, Oct 26, 2006
  2. Remco

    Elle Guest

    This came up in a manual transmissions course (focused on
    all cars, not just Hondas) I took recently, and was treated
    at length. FWIW, generally speaking the preferred route,
    cost- and labor-wise, indeed is just to replace the entire
    half axle (a.k.a. "half shaft"). This came from the
    instructor and my own research on this, which showed that
    many automotive authors in the last few years recommend this

    Napa and Autozone both offer lifetime warranties on half
    axles. The cost runs around $75, typically, at Napa and
    Autozone. This price does assume you return the core to Napa
    or Autozone or wherever. A junkyard may also sell rebuilt or
    used half axles, and for much less, like $5 (seriously) too.
    This was from reports from my classmates and the

    OTOH, a quick groups.google turns up some folks who think
    Subarus axles should always be OEM and new. The boot rubber
    used by rebuilders such as Napa and Autozone etc. can be

    Check the replacement half shaft diameter, length, and
    number of splines carefully with the old half shaft. That's
    one point that can trip up the person doing the repair.
    People say that when the match is not correct, Autozone etc.
    have no problem working with the customer to get the exact

    The solution may depend on how much longer you want to keep
    this Subaru and so gamble on a rebuild through a place like
    Napa etc.

    The subaru newsgroup(s) have some posts on this.
    Elle, Oct 26, 2006
  3. Remco

    Remco Guest

    Oops -- Sorry, I typed "Impreza" but meant to type "Integra".
    I am an idiot but, in my defense, this was typed before my morning
    coffee. :)

    (This is because I have a different problem with my daughter's Impreza
    at the moment so that's what I have on the brain.)

    Does what you say hold true about integras/civics as well, then?
    Remco, Oct 26, 2006
  4. Remco

    motsco_ Guest

    motsco_, Oct 26, 2006
  5. Remco

    Elle Guest

    Yes. Furthermore, the Honda/Acura half shafts are said to be
    fairly easy to pull, too. Sounds like an intermediate level
    job (well, by my standards). It is something I would try on
    my own, especially since the young kids in my class who had
    pulled a half shaft said they typically had not found it too
    difficult. The easiness of the job to me argues for getting
    the ones with a lifetime warranty from Autozone or Napa. If
    I'd done the job at least once, I might even be able to talk
    myself into the cheaper ones from the local salvage yard.

    IIRC, the variation in half shaft diameter, length, and
    spline number is somewhat notorious for Hondas, so measure
    all carefully at Autozone, etc.
    Elle, Oct 26, 2006
  6. Remco

    Remco Guest

    Great - thanks! I'll try autozone. Have only messed with axles on my vw
    Looking at the service manual it does not look difficult but seems
    Remco, Oct 26, 2006
  7. Remco

    Remco Guest

    SW Connecticut.
    Remco, Oct 26, 2006
  8. Remco


    I've done both axles (at different times, several years ago) on my '92
    Civic, using rebuilts from Autozone. The only problem was that one had
    teeth that were slightly beat up, and wouldn't fit through the hub --
    it's a tight fit. They exchanged it. Inspect the teeth before you
    leave the store.
    The Haynes book recommends getting the split ring thingy that locks the
    shaft into the tranny. You may of course have a problem getting the
    nut off the hub. When I replaced the engine in my '85 Accord, a long
    breaker bar wouldn't budge it. I rented an electric impact wrench, and
    after a couple long sessions with it, it loosened. I ended up buying
    one for about $20 at a Homier traveling tool show. They aren't very
    powerful, but the rattling is sometimes what you need.
    ALF_SCHUMWAY, Oct 26, 2006
  9. Remco

    John Horner Guest

    I would get a dealer quote just for grins. Who knows, maybe their price
    is reasonable. Much depends on how long you plan to keep running the
    car. If you want another 11 years out of it, then a new Honda/Acura
    part might make sense. If another 2-5 years will do then a parts store
    rebuilt may be in order.

    John Horner, Oct 26, 2006
  10. Remco

    Remco Guest

    Thanks -- you're saying to replace that split ring, then?

    About getting nuts off: I am restoring a vw beetle so after trying to
    get some of the rusted bolts off, I invested in an IR impact gun. If it
    doesn't come off, it will break :)
    Remco, Oct 27, 2006
  11. Remco

    Remco Guest

    Thanks -- I'll try that too.
    Remco, Oct 27, 2006
  12. Remco


    Yes. Dealer part. A few bucks, IIRC.
    I recently did the timing belt on it. My wrench is 235 ft/lbs.
    Wouldn't budge the crankshaft pulley bolt. My brother had a 375 ft/lb
    IR. Ditto. A 5' pipe over the breaker bar did the trick on that. The
    impact wrench worked, but the pipe didn't on the Accord hub nut. I
    think the pipe was about 4' that time. The Civic nuts weren't as hub
    bad. I think you also have to separate the tie rod too. That was the
    only other obstacle. Good luck.
    ALF_SCHUMWAY, Oct 27, 2006
  13. I've had success using a 235 ft-lb impact on axle nuts, but even the 500
    ft-lb has to work at getting crankshaft bolts free.

    I've also used a floor jack under a breaker bar to remove axle nuts when I
    didn't have air tools. It still helps to have a long breaker bar because the
    wheel always comes off the ground before the nut comes loose.

    Michael Pardee, Oct 27, 2006
  14. Remco

    jim beam Guest

    Michael Pardee wrote:
    dude - loosen the nut before jacking the wheel up, and do it in the
    gravity-assisted direction, not the other way around! life will be so
    much easier!
    jim beam, Oct 27, 2006
  15. I was unclear - I apply torque to the breaker bar with the floor jack, as
    though I were really strong (yeah... right!) and lifting up on the breaker
    bar myself. The wheel always comes off the ground because I don't use a
    cheater bar, but the other front wheel has never cleared the ground. I've
    used a similar procedure on the crankshaft bolt of my old Volvo, but both
    front wheels came off the ground before the bolt loosened. There isn't room
    to do that with the crankshaft bolt of Hondas.

    Michael Pardee, Oct 28, 2006
  16. Remco

    jim beam Guest

    ok, i understand what you're describing, but with respect, i still don't
    get why. to my way of thinking, it's much easier to push down on a
    lever using gravity as your friend than it is to lift up against it.
    you can't lift a wheel off the ground that way [well, not unless you
    pivot the whole car against a truly locked bolt and succeed in lifting
    the other end] and i see no difference whether it's axle nuts or
    crankshaft pulley bolts. i'm a real lazy guy mike and i hate sweating
    to be the strong guy when i can just use the weight of my lardy rear end
    to assist my efforts. using a jack to lift a breaker bar is fraught
    with potential danger from what i can see.
    jim beam, Oct 28, 2006
  17. The difference is that I only weigh about 200 lbs, while using the jack I
    can put much of the front half of the vehicle's weight to work... probably
    more than 1000 lbs. It's really quite safe. The wheel only comes up a few
    inches and the nut gives smoothly, lowering the car about like releasing the
    floor jack does. Think of it as jacking up that corner of the car by placing
    the jack under the breaker bar instead of the usual jack point. No sweat, no
    strain. Since you are standing on the far end of the jack you are well out
    of the way even if the socket pops off the nut.

    In contrast, I once tried to loosen a crankshaft bolt with the trick of
    putting the breaker bar on a jackstand and bumping the starter (on a Toyota,
    not possible on most Hondas). It worked but was really spooky. The front end
    suddenly rose a few inches. I won't do that again.

    Michael Pardee, Oct 28, 2006
  18. Remco

    G-Man Guest

    I had mine replaced on my '96 Accord LX 5-Speed.

    First one leaked around the seal
    Second one ratcheted
    Third one leaked around the seal.

    All had life time warranty and did these things right out of the shop.

    I said the hell with it and had them put an OEM Honda axle.

    Not a problem.

    I'll stick with OEM from now on. The shop that replaced them was nice
    enough to not charge me a dime extra in labor for al that work. I'm they
    one that said use aftermarket. We both agreed in the end it wasn't worth
    it. I did pay the difference between the OEM and the Aftermarket axle.

    G-Man, Oct 29, 2006
  19. It's the cheapest man who spends the most.

    Honda OEM, whether it's brake pads or exhaust or axles, work great. A
    Honda OEM exhaust is well worth the premium, for example. Anything else
    is a false economy if you're going to keep the car and actually use the
    part you bought.
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 29, 2006
  20. Remco

    Elle Guest

    Do you know from where your shop purchased the rebuilt half

    I have in my notes that www.hondaautomotiveparts.com sells
    the rebuilt OEM half-shafts for about $126 (again, assuming
    the core is returned), lifetime guarantee, IIRC.
    Elle, Oct 29, 2006
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