Trouble Starting 92 Honda Accord when weather is hot

[thecricket]

Hello,
I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on an issue for me. Whenever the weather is hot enough and I'm unable to find a spot parked in the shade I'm unable to start my car if the suns been shining on it all day. I'll turn the key and it'll keep turning and turning but it'll never catch and start (occasionally I'll get lucky and it'll start). Otherwise I'm left to sit and wait until the day cools off. Most times I'll have someone come pick me up and then after the sun sets and things cool off I'll go back to my car and it will start right up. Someone suggested loosening my gas cap incase there was some kind of pressure build up. I've done that and have had no luck. Any ideas of where to go next in tracking this down?

Thank you for any help you might be able to provide!

-Jeff

 

[André Boisvert]

Hi Jeff,

I posted a similar problem this morning and Jim Yanik was kind enough to respond. It looks like a main relay problem. Did a goggle search and got this; http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/aa010301a.htm Just returning the favour. Good luck.

André

 

[kathleen williamson]

Oh my god....I was just about to post the same problem. Maybe I will too, just because it can't hurt to get as much info as we can.

Kathy

 

[Steve Bigelow]

Main relay.
Google the group on it.

Oh my god....I was just about to post the same problem. Maybe I will too, just because it can't hurt to get as much info as we can.

Kathy

 

[kathleen williamson]

Thank you so much for all your help. I'll be printing out these messages and the site Andre/Jeff spoke about. Maybe my mechanic will give me a medal and a break on this new bill.

 

[Jim Yanik]

Thank you so much for all your help. I'll be printing out these messages and the site Andre/Jeff spoke about. Maybe my mechanic will give me a medal and a break on this new bill.

tegger.com and mark19 have excellent sites about reworking the main relay. (Google "mark19" and "main relay",he's got good pictures.)

 

[thecricket]

I was able to replace the part myself yesterday. Boy was the bugger way up in there. What a pain to get to. I appreciate everyones input. Now I just have to wait till the weather gets hot again. It's michigan..... I might have to wait until next summer

Thanks again!

 

[Jim Yanik]

I was able to replace the part myself yesterday. Boy was the bugger way up in there. What a pain to get to. I appreciate everyones input. Now I just have to wait till the weather gets hot again. It's michigan..... I might have to wait until next summer

Thanks again!

did ya take the old relay apart to see how easy it is to resolder? It's very easy,to take the cover off and to resolder.

 

[thecricket]

Jim,

I did take it apart but I haven't soldered a thing in my life. Any advice? With the new replacement part in I hadn't even thought about it.

Thank you, Jeff

 

[Jim Yanik]

Jim,

I did take it apart but I haven't soldered a thing in my life. Any advice? With the new replacement part in I hadn't even thought about it.

Thank you, Jeff

Well,then you don't have the tools needed to do the job,so it would not make sense to attempt resoldering.

 

[Elle (3)]

Well,then you don't have the tools needed to do the job,so it would not make sense to attempt resoldering.

Sure it would. What's he going to pay for a soldering iron? More than $20? Solder removal material? $10 Solder? $5 Anything else?

Then the value of the experience may far outweigh the equipment and material costs.

Folks need to be encouraged to be less dependent upon paying others for skills which they can easily master and enjoy doing so.

 

[Jim Yanik]

Sure it would. What's he going to pay for a soldering iron? More than $20? Solder removal material? $10 Solder? $5 Anything else?

Not having any experience soldering,he might pick acid-core solder for plumbing instead of rosin-core for electrical work.He might get an iron of insufficient wattage.He might make solder bridges.

Then the value of the experience may far outweigh the equipment and material costs.

Only if he ever decides to solder anything else.If not,he's wasted money buying tools he probably would never use again.

Folks need to be encouraged to be less dependent upon paying others for skills which they can easily master and enjoy doing so.

He also might not want to trouble with it.
Besides,he -already bought- a new relay.It probably will not fail before the car is replaced.

 

[gearmasher]

"" wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm hoping someone can help shed some light on an issue for
> me.
> Whenever the weather is hot enough and I'm unable to find a
> spot parked
> in the shade I'm unable to start my car if the suns been
> shining on it
> all day. I'll turn the key and it'll keep turning and turning
> but
> it'll never catch and start (occasionally I'll get lucky and
> it'll
> start). Otherwise I'm left to sit and wait until the day
> cools off.
> Most times I'll have someone come pick me up and then after
> the sun
> sets and things cool off I'll go back to my car and it will
> start right
> up. Someone suggested loosening my gas cap incase there was
> some kind
> of pressure build up. I've done that and have had no luck.
> Any ideas
> of where to go next in tracking this down?
>
> Thank you for any help you might be able to provide!
>
> -Jeff

my 89 honda was doing the same thing. it was my fuel pump relay under the dash that was giving me grief. start everytime cold but rarely when hot until multiple atempts or waiting.