Trouble finding source of noise.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Seth, Nov 6, 2005.

  1. Seth

    Seth Guest

    2001 Honda Accord. V6 Automatic with 140,000 miles.

    I have a noise that starts up around 15mph and gets louder with speed.
    Slight vibration to go with it. Alignment and tires are good. I don't
    /think/ it is the transmission as A) power and fuel economy remain unchanged
    and B) if I put it into neutral at highway speeds and just coast (letting
    engine RPM drop to near idle) noise remains constant (in regards to land
    speed).

    Pulled all 4 tires (1 at a time) to inspect brakes and boots and all appear
    to be in order. No rips or leaks.

    Any ideas of what it could be or what I should check next to help narrow it
    down further. Any pertinent info I should add to the above?

    Thanks.
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  2. Seth

    butch burton Guest

    When - how many miles ago did you rotate your tires - also did you
    check inflation. Cupped rear tires can make a funny noise - should
    rotate every 10K or so. Putting tranny in neutral and coasting is not
    good for extended duration but since the noise remained the same and
    varies with speed - could be in the tranny. At what mile interval do
    you change tranny fluid? Could be the thingy in the tranny that
    connects to the short shafts. Got a slight howl in mine - some idiot
    forgot to fill the tranny and drove for 10K one quart low.

    Tires first and tranny second.
     
    butch burton, Nov 6, 2005
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  3. Seth

    butch burton Guest

    When - how many miles ago did you rotate your tires - also did you
    check inflation. Cupped rear tires can make a funny noise - should
    rotate every 10K or so. Putting tranny in neutral and coasting is not
    good for extended duration but since the noise remained the same and
    varies with speed - could be in the tranny. At what mile interval do
    you change tranny fluid? Could be the thingy in the tranny that
    connects to the short shafts. Got a slight howl in mine - some idiot
    forgot to fill the tranny and drove for 10K one quart low.

    Tires first and tranny second.
     
    butch burton, Nov 6, 2005
    #3
  4. Seth

    butch burton Guest

    When - how many miles ago did you rotate your tires - also did you
    check inflation. Cupped rear tires can make a funny noise - should
    rotate every 10K or so. Putting tranny in neutral and coasting is not
    good for extended duration but since the noise remained the same and
    varies with speed - could be in the tranny. At what mile interval do
    you change tranny fluid? Could be the thingy in the tranny that
    connects to the short shafts. Got a slight howl in mine - some idiot
    forgot to fill the tranny and drove for 10K one quart low.

    Tires first and tranny second.
     
    butch burton, Nov 6, 2005
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  5. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Tires are inflated to proper PSI and not cupped.
    Agreed, that was just done for a few seconds at a time to see if noise was
    tied to RPM or speed.
    Every 35K, most recent being yesterday.
    So, if it is this "thingy" howling, A) is it more of a noise/annoyance issue
    or B) is it one of those things that will get worse and break down?
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  6. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Tires are inflated to proper PSI and not cupped.
    Agreed, that was just done for a few seconds at a time to see if noise was
    tied to RPM or speed.
    Every 35K, most recent being yesterday.
    So, if it is this "thingy" howling, A) is it more of a noise/annoyance issue
    or B) is it one of those things that will get worse and break down?
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  7. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Tires are inflated to proper PSI and not cupped.
    Agreed, that was just done for a few seconds at a time to see if noise was
    tied to RPM or speed.
    Every 35K, most recent being yesterday.
    So, if it is this "thingy" howling, A) is it more of a noise/annoyance issue
    or B) is it one of those things that will get worse and break down?
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  8. Seth

    High Guest

    Wheel bearing?
     
    High, Nov 6, 2005
    #8
  9. Seth

    High Guest

    Wheel bearing?
     
    High, Nov 6, 2005
    #9
  10. Seth

    High Guest

    Wheel bearing?
     
    High, Nov 6, 2005
    #10
  11. Seth

    jim beam Guest

    i'd say bearing or inboard driveshaft cup.
     
    jim beam, Nov 6, 2005
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  12. Seth

    jim beam Guest

    i'd say bearing or inboard driveshaft cup.
     
    jim beam, Nov 6, 2005
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  13. Seth

    jim beam Guest

    i'd say bearing or inboard driveshaft cup.
     
    jim beam, Nov 6, 2005
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  14. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Being relatively new to car maintenance (other than oil changes) any hints
    for determining which wheel? Driving with the windows down didn't help me
    narrow down which corner it is coming from, and jacking up each corner and
    spinning the wheel by hand yielded nothing.

    In addition, is this something a "typical" DIYer can accomplish? Special
    tools needed? Or am I better off having a shop do it and not waste my time?

    Approx costs to DIY and have a (non Honda) shop do it?

    Thanks

    Note: I have nothing against my Honda dealership, they were easy to deal
    with when I bought the car new, but they are not convenient to me where I
    have a decent shop 5 minutes away.
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  15. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Being relatively new to car maintenance (other than oil changes) any hints
    for determining which wheel? Driving with the windows down didn't help me
    narrow down which corner it is coming from, and jacking up each corner and
    spinning the wheel by hand yielded nothing.

    In addition, is this something a "typical" DIYer can accomplish? Special
    tools needed? Or am I better off having a shop do it and not waste my time?

    Approx costs to DIY and have a (non Honda) shop do it?

    Thanks

    Note: I have nothing against my Honda dealership, they were easy to deal
    with when I bought the car new, but they are not convenient to me where I
    have a decent shop 5 minutes away.
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
    #15
  16. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Being relatively new to car maintenance (other than oil changes) any hints
    for determining which wheel? Driving with the windows down didn't help me
    narrow down which corner it is coming from, and jacking up each corner and
    spinning the wheel by hand yielded nothing.

    In addition, is this something a "typical" DIYer can accomplish? Special
    tools needed? Or am I better off having a shop do it and not waste my time?

    Approx costs to DIY and have a (non Honda) shop do it?

    Thanks

    Note: I have nothing against my Honda dealership, they were easy to deal
    with when I bought the car new, but they are not convenient to me where I
    have a decent shop 5 minutes away.
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  17. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Thanks for the response. Please see my follow up to "High" in regards to
    "if" it is a wheel bearing.

    In regards to "inboard driveshaft cup", that's sounds ugly. Is it as ugly
    as it sounds? Any advice on how to narrow it down to this vs. wheel
    bearing?

    And as before (in my response to "High"), is this something a typical DIYer
    can/should attempt on their own? Costs of DIY vs. a shop?

    Are either of these possible causes of the noise safety and/or increased
    wear issues (i.e. will get steadily worse to the point of non-drivable) or
    merely annoyances that I have to deal with till I get it tracked down and
    repaired?

    Thanks
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  18. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Thanks for the response. Please see my follow up to "High" in regards to
    "if" it is a wheel bearing.

    In regards to "inboard driveshaft cup", that's sounds ugly. Is it as ugly
    as it sounds? Any advice on how to narrow it down to this vs. wheel
    bearing?

    And as before (in my response to "High"), is this something a typical DIYer
    can/should attempt on their own? Costs of DIY vs. a shop?

    Are either of these possible causes of the noise safety and/or increased
    wear issues (i.e. will get steadily worse to the point of non-drivable) or
    merely annoyances that I have to deal with till I get it tracked down and
    repaired?

    Thanks
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  19. Seth

    Seth Guest

    Thanks for the response. Please see my follow up to "High" in regards to
    "if" it is a wheel bearing.

    In regards to "inboard driveshaft cup", that's sounds ugly. Is it as ugly
    as it sounds? Any advice on how to narrow it down to this vs. wheel
    bearing?

    And as before (in my response to "High"), is this something a typical DIYer
    can/should attempt on their own? Costs of DIY vs. a shop?

    Are either of these possible causes of the noise safety and/or increased
    wear issues (i.e. will get steadily worse to the point of non-drivable) or
    merely annoyances that I have to deal with till I get it tracked down and
    repaired?

    Thanks
     
    Seth, Nov 6, 2005
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  20. Seth

    jim beam Guest

    for bearings, jack the suspected wheel off the ground and, leaving the
    wheel on for leverage, check for play.
    if it is a bearing, take it to the shop. the tools necessary to press
    the old bearing out and get the new one in without damaging it are not
    cheap or the kind of thing you have laying about in the garage.
    if it's the inboard joint, it can damage & loosen the output socket on
    the diff. driveshafts are relatively easy to replace. check out
    tegger's faq's regarding the joint separation tool you'll need to do
    this job properly. when removing the outboard joint from the steering
    knuckle, try and avoid hammering it - you can damage the wheel bearing.
     
    jim beam, Nov 6, 2005
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