transmission == toast ?

I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz
of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself,
no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the transmission started
acting up. Now, it wont drive and the fluid smells like toast.

Can anyone give me some advice on what needs replaced in this component?
Is there any hope that the transmission can be revived?

Thanks.
Tom

 

"Won't drive" is awfully vague.

Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You
can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage.

From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such as
precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would
include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental conditions,
exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing.

Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation
of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT
PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY!

I like toast, but not in a transmission.

 

you are right tegger, quite vague.

2001 honda civic ex, sedan. auto trans. 95,544 miles.

the engine seems fine, but from a stop sign i cant get moveing. the rpm
goes up, but the car wont move. really.

before the final moments today [final moments = condition the car is in
now], it was shifting from 2 to 3 and instead of droping rpm between shifts
the rpm went up.

I hope this helps, I am just disgusted right now, trying to come to terms
with all this. I am beyond denial I beleive.

Tom

 

Interesting. I will use your advice.

HG == Honda Genuine.

 

Would this apply to my case?

TSB #04036 -- VEHICLE CANNOT MOVE WHEN DRIVE IS SELECTED; MALFUNCTION
INDICATOR LAMP COMES ON OR D INDICATOR BLINKS WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0730. *TT SUPERCEDES 04-036, DATED 07/13/2004. *TT
(NHTSA ID #10010754, JANUARY 07 2005)

I did get this code, I stopped at advance auto tonight and this was the
code. Sorry Tegger, my mind is fried right now.

Tom

 

Tegger,

this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said that
the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt pumping, then i
find the information below which points to the main tranny oil pump blowing.

What should I do now?
Tom

<snip>
The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the case)
the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical internal part
which requires replacement of the entire transmission.

I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem and
give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center.

Bulletin #: 04036
Sequence #: 10010754
Date: 01/07/2005
Component Name: 103000 power train:automatic transmission
Make: Honda
Model: Civic
Year: 2002
Summary: Vehicle cannot move when drive is selected; malfunction indicator
lamp comes on or d indicator blinks with automatic transmission diagnostic
trouble code p0730. *tt supercedes 04-036, dated 07/13/2004. *tt

</snip>

 

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What is HG ATF ? You're not supposed to use anything but Honda Z1.

At least tell us if we're talking about a HONDA . . .

To get the burnt crap out, I'd drain it and fill with Dexron, run it
through the gears and check the level carefully. Then I'd try driving
it. If it runs, even so-so, I'd then spend the money and do THREE
drain-n-fills with Honda Z1.

'Curly'

 

Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and
fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high.

Thank you in advance,
Tom

 

Sorry for the late response. Been busy.

Go here:
http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp
Sign in with username lib and password access

Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your
car. The TSB is there.

The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem.

 

you should be able to find a trannie at a wrecker for cheap.

 

for cheap, like 800 bucks. the problem i have with this is that the
transmission should not have failed like it has. i dont want to pay
for honda's misjudgment of parts supplier.

thanks, and the one i did find locally is a 2002, so, it should be
beyond this type of failure.

 

Excellent information tegger. that bulletin really hits the target.
i wish my D would have been blinking which would have sealed the
diagnosis.

here is what the honda dealer tells me. i have a p0730 gear ratio out
of adjustment, and p0740 clutch 'issues' or slippage i forget the
description. its not covered under an extended warranty. i have
taken excellent care of this vehicle, this is the strangest failure i
have encountered in my life with cars.