TCS button

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Al, Apr 28, 2005.

  1. Al

    Al Guest

    I have a 2001 Honda Accord V6. I read in the manual that the TCS button
    turns the TCS system off. My question is; why would you want to turn the TCS
    off? Does it make any difference, if so what?

    AGR
     
    Al, Apr 28, 2005
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  2. Al

    slider Guest

    too funny..I wondered the same thing,because if the button is off,and your
    tires spin,the light comes on anyway,doesn't it?
     
    slider, Apr 28, 2005
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  3. Al

    Seth Guest

    Sometimes you need to turn it off and have both wheels spinning regardless
    of traction to get out of a rut or such.
     
    Seth, Apr 28, 2005
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  4. Al

    Al Guest

    That is mine does, it shows that the TCS system has sensed wheel spin.

    My question is why would anyone want to turn the system off. There must be a
    reason or they wouldn't have went to the expense of installing the button.

    Al
     
    Al, Apr 28, 2005
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  5. Al

    Al Guest

    That don't sound right, it seems you would need it on to have traction to
    get out of the rut.

    The only reason I can think of why you might want it off is when driving on
    winding roads. It might be dangerous if only one front wheel had traction
    while negotiating a curve. I would like to know for sure.

    Al
     
    Al, Apr 28, 2005
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  6. Al

    Seth Guest

    Well, I can testify that I've been stuck in the winter and needed to turn it
    off to get out. Often times as one wheel has traction and the other
    doesn't, that can switch quicker than the TCS which is why you turn it off
    in a situation like that.

    Also why many 4x4s put in aftermarket lockers to force their wheels to be
    locked (both moving regardless of traction) for off-road conditions.
    That is exactly when I wouldn't want to turn TCS off. If one wheel doesn't
    have traction and is spinning (like it would be with TCS off) what happens
    when it is already spinning and then hits a traction point? It jumps,
    possibly forcing you to lose what precious little control you had.
     
    Seth, Apr 28, 2005
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  7. Al

    Al Guest

    Sounds reasonable. I am from Michigan but have lived in southern California
    since I got this car. I have never driven it in snow.

    I would still like to hear from somebody from Honda who knows exactly why
    they included the off button.

    Al
     
    Al, Apr 28, 2005
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  8. TCS isn't compatible with snow chains.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, May 1, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    Who needs snow chains on a car? Especially a car with TCS.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, May 1, 2005
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  10. I used to wonder that when I lived in Phoenix. Then I moved to Flagstaff and
    found chains were not always enough. Icy hills are an adventure.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 1, 2005
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  11. Al

    Brian Smith Guest

    I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia and while we don't have anything that would
    qualify as mountains anywhere else, we have some large hills that make
    driving an adventure in a snow or ice storm. But, they can be handled
    without any problems with snow tires (no studs either), when the driver is
    driving according to conditions. I also drive tractor trailers for a living
    and we don't even carry chains here.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, May 1, 2005
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    K`Tetch Guest

    I am assuming that TCS is "traction control system"

    Personally, i would always turn it off, unless i need it. UK tv
    program "5th gear" did a piece on traction control, ABS, and ESP.
    Showed its main presenter (Tiff Nedell, ex F1 and LeMans driver) doing
    stuff in an x-type jag, with the things on, and with them off, in some
    place right in the north of finland, or sweeden, where all the car
    makers do their extreme testing.

    the traction control test was him trying to drive through what they
    call an 'ice slope shed' - its a shed with twoce tracks of ice, on a
    10% incline (the sheds to stop the ice melting or being anything other
    than smooth because of the sun). With the TC off, he couldn't get mroe
    than about 3-4ft up the slope - and he was trying. even melted a bit
    of a rut int he ice where it started with wheelspin. With TC on, it
    was straight up first time.

    Personally, i turn it off, because if I want wheelspin, i would like
    wheelspin, similarly, if i have a wheel spinning, 99.9% of the time,
    its spinning, because i want it to.

    I also disable ABS for a similar reason - braking just short of the
    lock-point is a much shorter stopping distance than ABS in almost all
    conditions (All ABS is is a repeatative series of lockups, you can see
    the 'dashed line' of an ABS vehicles skidmarks easily if you know what
    to look for) The only exceptions are on loose rgavel/snow or similar,
    where locking provides a shorter distance, due to material packing
    under the tyres. ABS can also in some instances, cause a car to spin,
    if you apply the brakes when cornering fast. (I also find squeeling
    tyres is a vrey effectie way to let an inattentive motorist know that
    they've not been paying attention.

    In short, they're drivers aids. however, they're programed very
    simply, and do not cover all situations, and as i've mentioned, can
    make some worse. Their intention is to make the average driver safer.
    To improve the average driver in average situations, and to assist all
    in all sitauations.
     
    K`Tetch, May 2, 2005
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