Still only 22.5 MPG!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by gbsmith, Nov 23, 2003.

  1. gbsmith

    gbsmith Guest

    I just tanked up my '04 Civic, and I'm still only getting ca. 22.5 MPG,
    city driving. The landscape here is very flat, I shift into neutral at
    red lights, and I swear I have been driving feather-light on the

    What am I doing wrong? The car now has about 630 miles on it.
    gbsmith, Nov 23, 2003
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    Phisherman Guest

    Have you changed the oil & filter yet? There's a lot of inital
    friction of newly machined parts. Brakes dragging, improper tire
    inflation, bad gas, etc, etc. I recommend Casterol oil, but whatever
    you initially use keep using that same brand.
    Phisherman, Nov 23, 2003
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    gbsmith Guest

    I'll check the tire inflation when the rain stops. I'm sure brakes
    could be dragging a bit, new car, all tightly adjusted.

    I use 87 octane for gas. I'll not change the oil until the car reaches
    5000 miles as per the Honda recommendations. When I do change, I'll
    take it to the dealer. They offer a $14.95 oil change. What's in it
    for them, I guess, is their assurance that the car is being maintained
    with Honda parts, thus overall I'm less likely to need to take advantage
    of the warranty.
    gbsmith, Nov 23, 2003
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    Chris Guest

    Phisherman's right; if you look at any Car & Driver/Consumers Reports road
    tests where they've tested a car for a year or more, the mpg is always less
    when the car has under 10 000 miles, and after 30 000 miles the engine
    performs much more efficiently.
    Fear not!
    Chris, Nov 24, 2003
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    Steve Lee Guest

    I friend of mine bought a '03 Civic early this year and he didn't
    start realizing the fuel efficiency numbers until shortly before his
    third oil change. Before that, it wasn't even close to what he was
    supposed to get. Around here, the recommended oil change is at
    6,000KM (approx 3,500miles).

    Wait until about the 10K mile mark and see what happens. In the
    meantime, next time you go in for a service, mention it to the service
    advisor so at least it's on record.
    Steve Lee, Nov 24, 2003
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    E. Meyer Guest

    If you are accelerating through the gears with a feather-light touch, you
    might be babying it too much. If you accelerate to cruising speed more
    briskly, you should get better mileage because it ultimately spends more
    time in the higher gear and less in the lower ones.

    You don't want to be redlining it every time you start out from a stop, but
    somewhere in between feather-light and drag strip should get you better

    Also, at 630 miles, you haven't filled it very many times (once, maybe
    twice?). The free tank of gas that comes with the car is usually not
    completely full. This will give an erroneous low MPG reading at the first
    fill up.
    E. Meyer, Nov 24, 2003
  7. I believe that if you went on a long trip (over 100 miles) and most of
    your driving was done on the freeway--your gas mileage would be a much
    better. The problem with city driving is that your car is burning gas even
    when you are at lots of red lights. This brings up the numbers when you
    mesure your miles per gallon. I never even bother measuring my miles per
    gallon unless I am going on a long trip. I usually gas up after I leave my
    city and gas up again shortly before I enter the last city. You don't have
    to wait for the tank to be near empty before you fill up the tank.
    Bill B. Johnson, Nov 24, 2003
  8. No, no no!! There is SUPPOSED to be friction between newly machined parts in
    the engine when it is being broken in. That's why they use special engine
    oil for the break-in period. Do not change the oil until the manual
    specifies it is to be changed.
    Scott MacLean, Nov 24, 2003
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    Steve Lee Guest

    Scott's right. You don't wanna be changing your oil too soon with a
    new car. Should wait the full mileage before getting your first oil
    change. Actually, I've been told for the first three oil changes,
    shouldn't do it sooner than necessary.
    Steve Lee, Nov 24, 2003
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    L Alpert Guest

    But 22.5? I was getting over 32 hwy in my '03 accord with the 2.4L after 1K
    L Alpert, Nov 25, 2003
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    Dave Kelsen Guest

    Well, there you go. It's payback. I've never gotten 32 mpg highway in
    my 4 cyl 03 Accord. It all evens out in the end.

    Dave Kelsen
    Dave Kelsen, Nov 25, 2003
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    TL Guest

    For what it's worth, I traveled a 500 mile mix of freeway and state
    highways in July in my '03 EX-L 4 cyl and got about 34 mpg. Highest
    single tank was just over 35 mpg; the lowest was about 32. I assume
    that is variation in driving and how full the tank is after refueling.
    The car had about 2,000 miles on it at the time.
    TL, Nov 25, 2003
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    gbsmith Guest

    Well, I certainly learned a lot. I never even knew that the
    manufacturers put a special oil in new cars. That certainly was news to me.

    I'll relax a bit, confident that I'm still driving one of the best.
    gbsmith, Nov 25, 2003
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    L Alpert Guest

    Hmm, I guess so! Long periods of highway use yield almost 34 MPG (Odometer
    is currently ar 5.6K)
    L Alpert, Nov 26, 2003
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    Dave Kelsen Guest

    Let me say that I almost never travel below 85mph on the interstate. My
    mileage, averaged over 33000 miles (10 months) has been 28.8, I think.
    I have the exact figures, but they're in the car, and I'm not!

    Dave Kelsen
    Dave Kelsen, Nov 29, 2003
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    L Alpert Guest

    85? Can't remember the last time I went that slow ;-)
    L Alpert, Nov 29, 2003
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    Artfulcodger Guest

    Let me know when your in my area --I want to be off the roads.
    I hope you have a good radar detector or a fat wallet.
    The Artful Codger
    Artfulcodger, Nov 29, 2003
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