steel belted radial tires. What are they?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Newhope, Apr 28, 2006.

  1. Newhope

    Newhope Guest

    Hi every one!

    I had read one article today related to "saving on gas" at www.about.com,
    they mentioned that steel belted radial tires could help me to save about 10%
    on gas. I have no idea what these tires are.

    Do you think these tires would fit my my car, Honda Civic 2005?

    Please educate me.
    Thanks a lot.
     
    Newhope, Apr 28, 2006
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  2. Newhope

    Hachiroku Guest

    You kidding?

    Sorry if I seem facetious, but it already has them...
     
    Hachiroku, Apr 28, 2006
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  3. I gotta agree...Are you serious?

    Almost every tire on the road today are radials. Do they even make bias ply
    anymore?
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, Apr 28, 2006
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  4. Steel belted radials appeared in the early '70s and quickly became the
    standard. There were two other competing (if you can call it that)
    technologies at the time: belted pias ply tires and unbelted bias ply tires.
    The fuel economy saving of 10% would be over the unbelted bias ply tires.

    The only things the bias ply tires had going for them were that they were
    easy to make and therefore cheaper, at least back when. The spread in price
    between basic bias ply tires and the comparable level of radial tire was
    often more than half again as much. Now bias ply tires of any sort are very
    rare, if they are made at all. The handling of bias ply tires was far poorer
    than the handling of radials, and the way the tire squirmed on the road made
    bias ply tires wear much faster and use your gas to scuff the tires.

    All radial ply tires are belted to provide tread stability. Most are steel
    belted, but there are some tires belted with exotic fibers. As the others
    say, it is very likely your current tires are steel belted radials.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 29, 2006
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  5. Newhope

    TeGGeR® Guest



    Hachi? Are you the same Hachi as from alt.autos.toyota?
     
    TeGGeR®, Apr 29, 2006
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  6. Newhope

    John Horner Guest

    Someone must have written that article 30 years ago. It is amazing how
    living long enough lets one see the cycles.

    In 1972 the most popular passenger vehicle in the US was a body-on-from
    Chevrolet Impala weighing around 4,500 lbs. with a big V-8 and getting
    around 12-14 MPG.

    In 2005 the most popular passenger vehicle in the US was the Ford F150
    weighing around 4,500 lbs. with a big V-8 and getting around 12-14 MPG.

    In the 1970s the arab nations decided to use their oil supply as a
    strategic weapon to hold the western world hostage and attempt to have
    it's way visa-vis Israel. By the late 1970s you couldn't give away
    that Chevy Impala. Will the same happen for the F150 and it's ilk?

    How to get better fuel economy articles were all the rage and switching
    to radial tires was one of the common suggestions. About.com seems to
    have simply picked up some of that old information.

    In the end the only thing which is going to change the oil consumption
    habits of US consumers is for prices to go high enough. How high is
    high enough? We shall see.

    John
     
    John Horner, Apr 29, 2006
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  7. To you all,

    I am serious, and I am not afraid to ask any questions (even it may
    sound/seem ridiculous to you) that I have no knowledge, esp. the questions
    are related to gadget which you guys have tons of knowledge.

    I came from the country where a car is a symbol of wealth, a measure of
    political power and that country is far behind the U.S. about 500 years in
    auto technology.

    Oh, by the way, thanks Mike and John for your detailed explanation.


     
    Newhope via CarKB.com, May 2, 2006
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  8. Newhope

    David Guest

    Your question isn't weird at all. I'm not sure how much gasoline
    economy can be attributed to radial ply tires, but tire technology has
    advanced a lot in the last few decades. Two features are prominent in
    design advancement. Radial plies and belts on the inside and rubber
    composition on the outside. This link will get you to a picture of a
    radial tire showing these features.
    http://www.yokohamatire.com/images/const.gif

    Because the cords which strengthen the construction plies of the tire
    run "straight" out from the center of the tire, around the outer
    diameter and back toward the center on the other side, they are called
    radial. This configuration reduces cross-cord flexing which keeps the
    tire cooler when turning under a load and puts all the strain parallel
    to the cords which is their strongest direction.
    Radial side walls can be made thinner than bias because of the strength
    inherent in the design which makes them lighter and more flexible.
    Lower unsprung weight makes the vehicle handle better and feel more
    comfortable.
    If the wear surface of the tire (inside the tread) were not stabilized,
    the tire would squirm and roll from side to side around the metal wheel.
    Steel belts are laid down around the circumference of the tire to
    provide this stability, add puncture resistance and improve tread contact.
    In addition, tire rubber compounds are so much better now that it is
    common to drive properly maintained tires more than 65,000 miles and
    80,000 mile warranties are not rare.
    One of the coolest things about radial tire design is that it allows
    significantly smaller sidewalls. Bias ply tires used to be about 80% as
    tall as they were wide. 70, 60, and 50 series tires are common today
    with even lower profile tires available for higher performance.
    If your tires have lettering on the side that includes a "R," like
    195R60x15 or 225SR50x17, you have radial tires

    Hope this helps. Happy driving
    David
     
    David, May 3, 2006
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