Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol

Discussion in 'Del Sol' started by Guest, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
    document someone can point me to?

    Thanks.

    G
     
    Guest, Aug 10, 2006
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  2. Guest

    Elle Guest

    It should be fairly easy on this year of Honda. Worst case,
    you'll have to buy a wrench/socket or two and be persistent
    in getting the joints freed.

    The steps appear at:
    http://autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/14/0a/1f/0900823d80140a1f.jsp

    www.slhonda.com 's parts site should have some drawings to
    help you locate the filter, if needed, too.

    Elle
    Original owner, 1991 Civic, filter took a couple hours to
    replace the first time many years ago (mostly due to not
    having a very good wrench/socket/adapter etc. set). Now
    takes about a half hour.
     
    Elle, Aug 10, 2006
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  3. Guest

    jim beam Guest

    why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
    miles on the vehicle?
     
    jim beam, Aug 11, 2006
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  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    There are some misfires when engine idles. None that I can discern while
    driving the car. Drives well. It is a 93 Del Sol with 88K miles. A
    neighbour suggested changing the fuel filter. Also said it may have
    sticky valves and I could try some cleaning agent like Techron.

    Recent work done to the car are:
    New Timing Belt
    New water pump
    (All Honda parts)

    After the timing belt was replaced, noticed engine knocking during
    acceleration after the car warmed up. Got lots of advise, and finally
    put in high octane gas and fuel system cleaner and the knocking went
    away 99.9%. Not sure if I have to keep on putting high octane gas.

    Next replaced spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. The
    plug wires had the original 93 date stamp on it. Assume all these are
    originals and may have never been replaced. I got the car about 6
    months ago. Had ordered the fuel filter at this time. ( All Honda parts)

    Since I have already done so much work, why not replace the fuel filter
    also....:)
     
    Guest, Aug 11, 2006
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  5. -----------------------------

    Plugged fuel filter never manifests at idle. It will show up when you've
    loaded all your belongings into the car (and a ski box on top) and are
    climbing a mountain trying to pass an 18-wheeler into a headwind. That's
    when the need for fuel flow is the highest. Sitting in your driveway
    uses almost zero gas. Even starting it uses very little.
    Techron is for sticking / dribbling injectors, not valves.

    Hope this helps.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 11, 2006
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  6. Guest

    jim beam Guest

    ok, timing belt gets changed, engine starts knocking. clue: those two
    events are connected!
    what does it say in the owners manual? if it's not a high compression
    b16 vtec, it's designed to run on regular. fix the problem, don't fudge
    it with unnecessary filters and the incorrect grade of gas!
    the fuel filter won't make the slightest bit of difference to an idle
    problem.

    #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
    ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
    common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
    experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
    it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
    engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
    have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
    how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
    correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
    and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
    the timing belt being out one tooth...
     
    jim beam, Aug 11, 2006
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  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks. Thats exactly what I was looking for. Seems reasonably straight
    forward to try.
     
    Guest, Aug 11, 2006
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  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks. Can you suggest what to use for cleaning valves?
     
    Guest, Aug 11, 2006
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  9. Guest

    Elle Guest

    Yes, and it sounds like the fuel filter is due, even if it's
    not behind the problems.

    Check the ignition timing at some point real soon, too.

    Double check: What brand plugs did you use?

    Always wise to start from a "clean baseline," (eliminating
    all the little stuff that has to be replaced periodically
    anyway) as well.
     
    Elle, Aug 11, 2006
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  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Thanks. I have to talk to my friend who did the timing work. He knows
    what he is doing. Let me see if I can convince him to give the belt
    another look for correct tensioning. I don't think it is off by a whole
    tooth. It probably is a bit loose.
     
    Guest, Aug 11, 2006
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  11. Guest

    delSol-owner Guest

    Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
    timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
    aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
    pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
    on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
    with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
    used the red ignition mark as TDC.

    Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
    on the mark.
     
    delSol-owner, Aug 23, 2006
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  12. Guest

    jim beam Guest

    thanks for the feedback and confirmation - it's good for the archives
    when people take the trouble to do that because it allows others to
    follow your diagnostics to a successful result, not just "try everything
    ever mentioned".
     
    jim beam, Aug 23, 2006
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