question for the wheel gurus

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Pete, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Ok, this is a bit of an oddball question. I'm trying to find the 99 civic
    coupe oem rim offset; that is, the distance from the centerline of the rim
    to the mounting flange. I need to know this because I want to upgrade to 14
    x 6" wide alloy wheels. Those have a 38mm offset. The stock rim is 14 x 5".
    There isn't alot of clearance between the inside of the rim and the strut
    arm. If the offset is als 38mm on the oem, then I can't do it. Someone at
    a performance shop told me that it's usually 50mm and it should be indicated
    on the rim but I didn't see it. If it is 50mm, then the 14 x 6" wheels are
    no problem at all.

    Thanks,
    Pete
     
    Pete, Apr 6, 2006
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  2. Pete

    Alan Guest

    The numbers you're saying mean "positive" offset. If the wheel is
    laying down on its side with the face up, positive means that the
    flange is higher from the center line of the wheel, which means that
    the inside edge of the wheel is going to be farther in when mounted on
    the car.
    So it appears that the 38mm offset on a 14 x 6 wheel would have the
    same clearance as the 50mm offset on the 14 x 5 steel rim. (1/2 inch
    being about 12mm... the other 1/2 inch would stick out from the car).
    Steel rims don't usually have the offset number stamped on it. What you
    can do to measure the offset of a wheel is lay it down on a flat
    surface (with no tire on it) and measure the bottom outer edge to the
    top outer edge and divide by 2 to get your center line. For example
    let's say the steel rim is 150mm from top edge to bottom. Half would be
    75mm. Then measure from the ground to the bottom edge of the center
    hole or lug hole, lets say it's 125mm. Subtract 75 from 125 and you
    have your wheel offset.
    NOTE: Rear wheel drive cars have a smaller offset for some reason.
     
    Alan, Apr 6, 2006
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  3. Pete

    jim beam Guest

    nothing to do with the end driven. it's determined by the steering
    scrub radius. modern cars have negative scrub radius because of the
    self stabilizing benefits in the event of front tire blow-out. the only
    way to achieve negative scrub is by having a large negative offset. old
    vehicles and still a lot of trucks have/had positive scrub and those
    wheels have a much smaller offset.
     
    jim beam, Apr 6, 2006
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  4. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Thanks for the info. I found the offset on the oem wheel to be 45mm. Would
    a change to a 38mm offset wheel be acceptable for the civic? Or is any
    change from oem a bad idea?
     
    Pete, Apr 7, 2006
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