protectionist b.s.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jim beam, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. jim beam

    Joe Guest

    McDonald's has sold, what, 5 Billion burgers? They MUST be the best
    on the market!
     
    Joe, Feb 12, 2010
  2. jim beam

    Clive Guest

    In message
    I don't see any common sense, or reasoning.
    You've been told by more than just me that restrictions don't exist.
    Who, in their right mind is going to by a gas-guzzling vehicle while
    fuel prices are $10 a gallon.
    You've had pointed out to you the range of items that make up a
    considerable trade from the USA to Japan.
    You're just plain thick.
     
    Clive, Feb 12, 2010
  3. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    that doesn't translate over here dude. our side of the pond, "thick"
    means fat - what you mean is "stooooopid".
     
    jim beam, Feb 13, 2010
  4. jim beam

    Clive Guest

    Sorry I'll amend that to "Stupid".
     
    Clive, Feb 13, 2010


  5. Yep, thanks for the laugh!

    <G>

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Feb 13, 2010
  6. jim beam

    jr92 Guest




    Your comprehensive skills aren't very good are they????



    Try understanding to entire context of a post and what the auther is
    trying to say.




    I don't mind passing out a few good insults when they are deserved, I
    don't even mind recieving insults too much.


    However; when insulting a poster, I usually have the decency to keep
    his wife, children or parents out of it.

    You should do the same.

    And yes, you did hit a raw nerve.


    Now, politely take a hike, son.
     
    jr92, Feb 15, 2010
  7. jim beam

    jr92 Guest

    And yet,they have sold more burgers than anyone else. That is an
    indisputable truth.



    "Best" is subject to one's own interpertation, I guess.



    Now if these burgers were rotten, bad tasting, or a piece of crap, or
    maggot infested, they wouldn't be selling by the billions. You gotta
    understand a simple fact. People don't buy junk.



    And they don't buy what they don't want.


    That is why McDonalds HAS sold all the burgers that they have.



    And that is why GM still sells millions of cars and trucks every year.

    And, GM and McDonald's DO have something in common.



    They do not RECALL more of their products THAN THEY SELL, unlike a
    certain Japanese company that some are still trying to call "king of
    quality."


    In trying to make fun of me, you merely justified my point.


    Thank you.
     
    jr92, Feb 15, 2010
  8. jim beam

    jr92 Guest




    Maybe, buy just not naive. There are a million ways a government can
    impose restrictions on items being imported into their country, making
    it nearly impossible for the item to be sold in the country, but, it
    would still, "legal" to sell the item in that country.


    And we are both using generalizations regarding the Japanese.


    On one hand, you are saying they WILL NOT buy our products, because
    gas is expensive. Others who have posted here say our cars are too
    large. Others have said the Japanese simply would not want to buy our
    product because it is inferior.




    My Generalization is based on a little common sense.



    Many Japanese people have embraced a Western civilization lifestyle.
    They like jeans, pop music. McDonalds, and baseball, along with a lot
    of other things we have to offer. It goes to reason they would also
    like some of the cars, just like millions of Americans like the cars
    THEY have to offer. Not real hard to understand. Yet, we buy MILLIONS
    of their vehciles, and they buy only 12000 of our cars. Something just
    isn't right here.

    And, BTW, not all of Japan is located in Toyko. Some people live out
    in the country, where they would be able to own and drive a big
    American vechicle. A lot of people there also have money, so, high gas
    prices wouldn't necessarly, be an issue. Besides, if that were the
    case, there would be NO Toyota type vehicles, such as a Camry,
    Corolla, or one of their pick up truck lines sold there. The Japanese
    simply would not be able to afford to drive them. Those vechicles get,
    on average WORSE gas mileage than comperable American vehicles. It
    goes without saying that if, in a TRUE free trade system, a Chevy
    Malibu, which is of higher quality and gets better gas mileage, would
    sell in Japan if a Camry sells there. Or, are you saying they don't
    sell Camry's there?


     
    jr92, Feb 15, 2010
  9. jim beam

    Clive Guest

    In message
    I don't think you've listened to anyone, certainly not me as I told you
    to Google for "Driving in Japan" to see the restrictions, which you
    obviously haven't. If there were the protectionism that imagine, how
    do you think (I know you don't, but that's a separate point) 12000 cars
    a year get in?
     
    Clive, Feb 15, 2010
  10. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    "comprehension skills"

    quite apart from your apparent inability to use a "spel chekr", you need
    to get some brains and figure out what you're dealing with when you post
    on an unmoderated forum.
     
    jim beam, Feb 15, 2010
  11. jim beam

    jim beam Guest

    wow, either amazing stupidity or clinical delusion. does the nurse let
    you play on the interweb very often junior? because s/he probably
    should be protecting you from too much reality if you can't cope with it.
     
    jim beam, Feb 15, 2010
  12. jim beam

    Clive Guest

    The problem would be solved overnight if Detroit made cars for the
    Japanese market, instead of putting their heads in the sand.
     
    Clive, Feb 15, 2010
  13. jim beam

    pws Guest

    Since you are telling me what to do, I will do the same with you.

    Grow a thicker skin or get off of usenet.

    Just a suggestion.
     
    pws, Feb 16, 2010
  14. jim beam

    pws Guest

    Next you will say that AOL is a good internet provider because millions
    of people subscribe to it.

    Guess what, AOL does suck, just like McDonalds and GM.

    I have not purchased more than a cup of coffee from McDonalds in over 20
    years because their hamburgers are nasty garbage, and there are much
    better hamburger joints all over town. There are also much better cars
    available than what GM produces.

    People who make smart choices tend to avoid AOL, GM and McDonalds. Yes,
    stupid like you do buy junk.

    That is why businesses that produce shitty products and services, like
    McDonalds, AOL and GM continue to exist. Well, that and the bailout for
    Government Motors.
     
    pws, Feb 16, 2010
  15. jim beam

    pws Guest

    Higher quality Malibu over a Camry? Wow, that is truly delusional. You
    must actually believe those sad GM commercials.

    The reason that right-hand drive Malibus are not being produced for the
    Japanese market is that the Japanese people would not buy that POS
    vehicle, at least not in any quantity, and the decision-makers at GM
    know this.
     
    pws, Feb 16, 2010
  16. jim beam

    Clive Guest

    The British car manufacturers, went into liquidation because of poor
    designs that turned out inferior product. The unions didn't like it,
    but people voted with their pockets and now they're gone. We still
    make cars but under other names with their designs. Yes it was hard on
    the thousands that lost their jobs, but now they're more secure with
    world class designs owned by the likes of Toyota, Nissan, Honda, BMW,
    etc..
     
    Clive, Feb 16, 2010
  17. jim beam

    Tony Harding Guest

    While not a religious person, I say a little prayer daily that they
    don't use Windows. :)
     
    Tony Harding, Feb 17, 2010
  18. jim beam

    Jim Yanik Guest

    yeah,"blue screen of death" takes on a whole new meaning.
    Or "a fatal error occurred...". Aw S#!t :-(

    --
    Jim Yanik
    jyanik
    at
    localnet
    dot com
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 17, 2010
  19. jim beam

    jr92 Guest


    I guess, because you say so, it must be true. The millions who use the
    products you slam must be too stupid to use "better" products.




    The millions of customers who purchase these products will disagree
    with you.


    McDonalds has done just fine without you.


    Selling burgers buy the BILLIONS, even without your endorsement.



    Maybe there ARE better cars available than what GM produces.


    It just ain't a Toyota!



    For three whole paragraghs you have slammed products that are sold by
    the MILLIONS world-wide.



    You call people who buy these products, "stupid."



    I guess, it goes without saying, that you believe we don't now any
    better than to buy these products.


    But YOU know better.



    YOU know what is a better product for us "stupid' people to buy.


    If that is the case, you MUST work for the federal government, as they
    always know what is "best' for people.




    And once again, I'll say this"


    If GM produces "shitty" vehicles.,


    Toyota produces the cesspool!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    jr92, Feb 18, 2010
  20. jim beam

    jr92 Guest


    You're starting to become unraveled. By all accounts, the Malibu is a
    better vehicle than the Camry, and it really ain't even close.

    Try to stay with us who live in the real world.

    The Malibu gets better gas mileage.

    Even Consumer reports, who has slammed GM vehicles for decades, calls
    this a 'world-class car'.


    And it even stops when you want it to.


    And the accelerator doesn't stick wide open.


    Yeah, it is a MUCH better car.


    But hell, my 06 GP is a much better car than the Camry if you compare
    it objectively.


    Better gas mileage, better handling, roomier, fewer recalls, safer,
    better looking (ok, the last part IS biased on my part).




    Pretty factual statement on your part, huh?

    Converting a Malibu to right hand would not be a hard task.

    The Japanese government will not allow these cars to compete, at least
    on a level playing field, with the Camry in their own country.


    Open the market, without any strings attached, and see what happens.
     
    jr92, Feb 18, 2010
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