Pretty bad accident, insurance won't total it yet [DFW]

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dennis Cooper, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. My first accident was about 10 days ago. An uninsured driver ran a red
    light directly in front of me, resulting in front end damage to my 2001
    Prelude (in DFW Texas).

    Here is a link to it afterwards: http://www.coopertx.us/car/DCP00927.JPG

    Allstate thinks it can be repaired, I have 2 days to now get it to a
    body shop and have them tear it down to see if this is the case.

    I've got a few questions: Is it normal to try and attempt repair on a
    car this damaged? Though you can't tell just from the pics, I have no
    idea how the mechanical system faired, but it looks awful to me.

    He said his estimate for repairs comes to $9600 on a car worth $16k.
    First, is it worth that amount? 30k miles, perfect shape, all
    maintenance records intact. He spoke of taking sheet metal off a
    Prelude with a good front end, which sounds shady to me.

    If they do repair this, what will it do to the value of my car? I'm
    rather upset at the prospect of my perfect car taking a complete
    nosedive in value.

    Does anyone have experience with Honda body repair in Dallas? I've no
    idea where to take this thing, would like recommendations.

    Thank you for your time.
     
    Dennis Cooper, Sep 29, 2003
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  2. Dennis Cooper

    E. Meyer Guest

    My experience with body repair in Dallas (several different places) is that
    they always keep/lose half the parts they remove and mess up the ones they
    reassemble. The body work will probably look presentable, but when you look
    under the hood or under the car, everything else will look like they dumped
    it in from a bucket.

    The welded on used front end would be obvious to a trained appraiser, and if
    it is a poor job, even to a casual observer. The value will definitely drop
    if you go this route. I believe you still have the right to demand that it
    be repaired with new Honda parts.

    Mechanical issues will plague you later on, as moving parts that were
    knocked slightly out of alignment will suffer premature failures months or
    years later.

    Your best bet is to insist on a competent repair with new OEM parts, then
    sell it. Edmunds lists it at $16k private party sale, $14k tradein.
     
    E. Meyer, Sep 29, 2003
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  3. Dennis Cooper

    clibert Guest

    Good luck. If the repair cost is less than 1/2 the value the insurance
    company will not total the car. Also someone else mentioned insisting on
    OEM parts, well I can tell you from experience unless you have a rare car
    (Ie. an aniversary corvette or a Ferari/Lambourghini) the insurance company
    will not authorize the use of OEM parts. The reason for this is to keep
    insurance cost down for everyone.
     
    clibert, Sep 29, 2003
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  4. Dennis Cooper

    Larry Guest

    Unfortunately, for you, with this repair to value ratio, the insurance
    company will repair the car. In order to get the car totalled, the repair
    estimate on the vehicle will need to get to about $12,000 or thereabouts
    (75% to value). If this were my car, it would be in the most capaple shop
    in town for repairing it, in case it is not totalled. Since the front end is
    damaged, after it is repaired, I would most likely use it as trade in bait
    for another car as the dealer won't be asking you questions about it as a
    private party most likely would. I'd also be suspect of future mechanical
    issues myself, if I held onto this car.
    Sorry that you are the unfortunate victim of the hazards of being on the
    road at the wrong place at the wrong time.
     
    Larry, Sep 29, 2003
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  5. You will have to co-operate with your insurance company on this issue.
    It's up to them--not you-- on whether or not to repair the vehicle. They
    will pay for most of the repairs. I advise you to trade it in on a new
    Honda after it is repaired. I say this because the car may have suffered
    some damage that was not fixed. I once had a friend that purchased a used
    car that had been in a major accident. The frame was slighly bent. He did
    not know it until the front tires started to wear out very quickly. This
    was caused by the bent frame. He eventually traded it in on a new car.
     
    Bill B. Johnson, Sep 30, 2003
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  6. Dennis Cooper

    Striker Guest

    Thus is a good reason to check a car out at Carfact.com before buying a
    used one. It will list the accident.
     
    Striker, Sep 30, 2003
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  7. Dennis Cooper

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    I had a used '89 Prelude (Black w/ Tan int.) that I found out was a
    repair job. The front was black, and the back was at one time red. It
    never showed up on Car-Fax as having been in any accident. I only drove
    it for nine months, and it had many water leaks and rattles. I traded it
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Sep 30, 2003
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  8. Dennis Cooper

    Chris Jones Guest

    My wife's 01 Accord was sandwiched last year on the freeway, I thought for
    sure it would be totalled - the radiator was crushed into the engine block,
    it was hosed down by a fire truck for gas leaks - but the insurance company
    spent $14K to fix. Took three weeks, but I cannot tell any difference.
    Looks brand new. The insurance company offered a lifetime warranty on the
    work if we used one of their shops, so we went that way. It was actually a
    Chevrolet dealer's shop (right across from the Honda delaer that the car
    came from) that did the repairs. Our Accord looked much worse than your
    Prelude and it is perfect now. Let your insurance adjuster do the legwork
    on finding the best Honda repair facility (who cares if they have to tow it
    an hour away, right?) and get you an acceptable warranty on the repairs.
     
    Chris Jones, Sep 30, 2003
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  9. Dennis Cooper

    TL Guest

    If it is a reputable shop ... look for one guaranteed by the insurer
    .... this could turn out just fine. My insurance company has never
    balked at OEM parts and I am always welcome to choose the shop I
    prefer. Does Alstate tell you where to take the car? If not, take it
    to either a shop you trust (referrals from friends etc.) or one
    connected with a dealer. There's no reason why you can't get OEM
    parts.

    I have heard of people negotiating with insurance companies to total a
    car or to allow you to total it yourself (ie, not have it repaired and
    sell it to a salvage yard) and pay you the claim value. If the damage
    were $10K, ask how much a salvage yard will give you for the car as
    is. Then you can take to sum of the two payments and simply buy a new
    car. As long as it is certified as sold for salvage, I would think the
    insurance company might like the idea. They eliminate any problems
    related to how the repair turns out, hidden damage once they've
    committed to repair, problems that show up later, etc. I have no
    experience with this, but I've heard about it.
     
    TL, Oct 1, 2003
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  10. Dennis Cooper

    Larry Guest

    Not necessarily


     
    Larry, Oct 1, 2003
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