Plan To Buy New Accord V-6..Need Input

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Damn The Torpedos, Aug 8, 2003.

  1. First:I've seen ads about a clearance sale but nothing like the Camry
    ads ($1000 rebate).Are there fixed "rebates" or is it more vague than
    that?

    Second:Break-in/maintenence

    I do lots of highway driving and have read that this is not good,
    break-in wise,for engines and/or transmissions.Comments?

    Also....am considering using synthetic oil.Good or bad idea...
    apart from the cost? If good,is Mobil 1 the one to go with
    or could I consider another major brand (e.g.,Quaker State,
    Valvoline,Castrol). Should I go full synthetic or is a blend OK?
    Should I do it at delivery or wait a few thousand miles for
    the factory "break-in" oil to do its thing?

    Lastly:If I do go synthetic are there garages,etc that can
    do synthetic? I live in New England and crawling under a car
    in Dec/Jan/Feb isn't much fun!

    Ooopps...very last thing:Is the oil filter on the V-6 positioned
    for easy access?

    Thanks to all who reply!
     
    Damn The Torpedos, Aug 8, 2003
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  2. I suggest that you compare prices on the V6 top of the line Camry and V6
    top of the line Accord. Ask salesmen at both dealers to give you their
    best prices. Show the Honda dealer the info. about the $1000 rebate and
    see if they are willing to match it. Take the best deal. The top of the
    line Camry V6 and top of the line Accord V6 are both great cars and will
    fill your needs.
     
    Bill B. Johnson, Aug 8, 2003
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    Josh Guest

    Knowledge is your best weapon. As far as pricing and getting the best deal,
    use www.carsdirect.com and www.edmunds.com to compare, get invoice prices,
    prices with options, etc. If one dealer won't deal, there's always another
    one. If worse comes to worse, you can use the cars direct service, I have
    some friends who went this route, no problem.

    Josh
     
    Josh, Aug 8, 2003
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    TL Guest

    Others have made good suggestions on purchasing. As to the break in,
    I've been told (and was told again when I got my 4 cyl Accord this
    year) that it is sustained driving at a constant speed that's not
    recommended for break in. I think even the manual suggests varying
    driving speeds for the first 600 miles or so. My salesman suggested,
    for example, that I not use the cruise on the highway during break in.

    If you do a lot of freeway driving, I'd just be careful to try to vary
    the speed a lot during those initial miles. On the other hand, take a
    weekend and drive all the back roads in your state. You ought to be
    able to rack up 500 miles. (Everyone also recommends avoiding the
    urge to really see how fast that V6 can do 0-60! Stay away from heavy
    acceleration during the break in.)
     
    TL, Aug 8, 2003
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    John D. Guest

    Don't know...sorry.
    You should vary the speeds, but drive gently. Read your Owner's Manual
    (OM) FIRST for specifics for break-in driving instructions re: top
    speeds, top rpms, etc...
    Yes, go syntheticc right after the break-in period, with a quality oil
    filter (Honda, K&N, Mobil 1, etc.).

    Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil = Good Idea.

    Forget synthetic blends.
    Even if they don't BRING your own...AND quality filter...who know what
    THYE use, so bring your own oil and filter!
    Don't know...your OM should show you where it is.
    Good luck,

    John D.
     
    John D., Aug 8, 2003
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    Guest Guest

    www.edmunds.com and www.carsdirect.com will give you an idea for what
    price cars are actually selling. If you really want to know, you will
    have to haggle with several dealers. You decide what your time and money
    are worth to you. Accords are selling under list because it's the end of
    the year. The 2004's will sell much closer to list because it's the
    beginning of the model year.

    If you buy Honda, check for a "President's Award" dealer on the Honda
    web site. That is, the top 20% of dealers in number of cars sold , but
    more importantly, customer satisfaction. (The internet has horror
    stories of cars not properly prepped for delivery: wheels out of
    alignment, tires with 45lbs air pressure etc.) I wouldn't go to a dealer
    with a horrible service department, even if you paid me a couple of
    hundred dollars. They prep the car. They will provide poor service
    which will steal your time, and/or, eventually, try to get their money
    back with repairs than aren't needed or are overpriced. How much is
    avoiding irritation worth to you? Been there, done that. A top 20%
    dealer won't want to screw up it's customer satisfaction ranking just to
    screw you. My new Accord was perfectly prepped and has been care free so
    far.
    I just finished break in on my 2003 Accord V6. The manual only says to
    avoid hard acceleration for 600 miles (1000 km) and avoid hard braking
    for 200 miles. Years ago, for several previous Hondas, I recall learning
    that I should vary my speed by 10 MPH every 10 minutes on the highway.
    The salesman said that I should stay under 4000 RPM which is easy with
    the V6. For the 4 cylinder someone said to stay below 70 MPH.

    I think the specifics don't really matter. What matters is to vary the
    speed and not run high RPM's and not brake hard. So, it's not a good
    idea to take the car on a 600 mile highway trip on cruise control for
    the first miles. 10 minutes at 65(MPH), 10 minutes at 55, 10 minutes at
    65, 10 minutes at 50, 10 minutes at 60 etc. should work. Secondary road
    driving mixed in is even better.

    The most difficult part is dropping your speed below the speed limit for
    10 minutes while on a long highway trip. You have to sit there patiently
    and have trucks and other vehicles blow by you. Avoid temptation for
    600 miles and then you can stretch your legs. <g> It feels like holding
    back a race horse, but it can be done.

    RE: Synthetic Oil

    The manual says do NOT change the oil before the first indicated change.
    It says after that you can use synthetic oil, but you must still follow
    the recommended change intervals. Why use synthetics?

    I've had Accord engines with 140,000 and 180, 000 miles that were still
    in great shape using regular oil. I just change the oil and filter
    appropriately.

    RE:Oil Filter

    I don't recall this information being in the owner's manual. I'll have
    to check again. You might need the service manual.

    The 2003 V6 Accord is simply wonderful. The V6 Camry is typically much
    more expensive when comparably equipped and much slower. (But, how
    often are you really going to push either car to it's limits?) Both are
    nice, but they are different. If your want a quieter more boat like
    cruiser with heated outside mirrors, then you want a Camry.. If you want
    better handling, a tad more spunk under the hood, and side curtain air
    bags, then want an Accord.

    One secret about the Accord V6 is that it is fun driving slower in it as
    well as faster. I enjoy doing both.

    A smiling 2003 Accord V6 owner :)
     
    Guest, Aug 9, 2003
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    Paul Cardoza Guest

    You should be able to get a V6 Accord at invoice or so here in New
    England

    Do not change the oil until at least 5k miles. This is important!!!!

    Speedee Oilchange has Mobl 1 and use the 0-20 which is designed for the
    2003 Accord.
     
    Paul Cardoza, Aug 10, 2003
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    Guest Guest

    The oil change info is in the owner's manual. It's difficult to tell
    from the diagram --without having been under the car-- but it does
    appear that there might me something in the way to make reaching the
    filter more entertaining that I would hope. <g>

    Someone who actually changed the oil should answer.
     
    Guest, Aug 12, 2003
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