oil leak

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by joecj7, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. joecj7

    joecj7 Guest

    Oil is leaking on the drivers side right in front of the wheel,
    replaced oil pan gasket is there anything else on that side I should
    check? Anything would help.
     
    joecj7, Feb 19, 2007
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  2. joecj7

    Elle Guest

    Model? Year? Miles on car?

    The driver's side of the crankshaft has an oil seal that is
    commonly replaced at each timing belt change. When was the
    TB last changed, and can you check whether the seal was
    replaced?
     
    Elle, Feb 19, 2007
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  3. joecj7

    joecj7 Guest

    91 Honda Accord how hard is that to change by yourself ? Also this
    leak is more like a small creek than a leak! But it is always on the
    drivers side.
     
    joecj7, Feb 19, 2007
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  4. joecj7

    Elle Guest

    I'd call it a job for someone who is comfortable with tools,
    reading manuals, and with several years experience doing at
    least basic car repairs and maintenance.

    To get an idea of this seal's location, see page 2 of
    http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/AccordManual/400/5-36.pdf .
    Look for the part called the "key." This seal is to the
    right of where the key inserts, going around the shaft.

    I researched this job for around 20 hours (spread over a few
    months) before attempting it back in 2004 on my 91 Civic.
    This newsgroup, along with the manual, gave a lot of help,
    too.
    Can you crawl under the car and inspect very carefully to
    ascertain the source? Maybe put the car on ramps, wipe it
    down, drive it for a day, then put it back on ramps and
    inspect closely.

    At least one other candidate is the camshaft oil seal.

    When was the timing belt last changed (because this seal
    should have been changed then)?

    How much oil do you add and how often?
     
    Elle, Feb 19, 2007
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  5. joecj7

    motsco_ Guest

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    OK, it's a '91 Accord, but what's the mileage, is it OIL or something
    else, what side is the steering wheel on, and why did you change the oil
    pan gasket (it's one of the most mis-diagnosed problems on Hondas)???

    "in front of the wheel" is where the windshield reservoir and maybe the
    Power Steering are located. Have you confirmed the color / taste of this
    mysterious 'oil' ???

    Might have to open the hood.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Feb 19, 2007
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  6. joecj7

    Eric Guest

    In addition to the caveats raised by Mostco, common sources of oil leaks on
    the driver's side of the engine include: the valve cover gasket, the
    camshaft seal, the front balance shaft seal, the rear balance shaft gear
    casing seal, and the front crankshaft seal. Note that there has been an
    abundance of problems with the front balance shaft seal leaking. To remedy
    this problem, Honda has developed an aluminum seal retainer that should be
    used when this seal is replaced. Note that replacing any of those seals,
    except for the valve cover gasket and the front cam seal, will require
    removing both the timing belt and the balance shaft belt. As such, they
    should be replaced at the time unless they've been done recently. It would
    also be a good time to replace the water pump. Essentially, you wind up
    rebuilding the left side of the motor, i.e., new seals, belts, pump and
    possibly new tensioner bearings depending on the mileage. Don't fret, this
    is typical maintenance on a Honda of this vintage. If you're not familiar
    with Honda timing belts, then it would probably be best to have a mechanic
    do this work. If you get the camshaft off by more than a tooth or two then
    it could result in bent valves requiring the head to be pulled. Getting the
    balance shaft belt off is not as extreme but the engine will likely run like
    an old out of balance washing machine during the spin cycle which will
    eventually cause the motor mounts to fatigue and fail prematurely.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Feb 20, 2007
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  7. joecj7

    joecj7 Guest

    Thanks curly did look under the hood crawled uner the car wiped it
    down put oil back in once it warmed up oil pressure light came on
    again and oil was by the inside part of the drivers side front wheel.
    Good puddle as well as seeing oil in spots where I pulled in. Whatever
    the leak it is leaking roughly all the oil out everyday.
     
    joecj7, Feb 22, 2007
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  8. joecj7

    joecj7 Guest

    Eric thanks that was the direction I was looking for to see if this
    was something I could do or if it would be out of my realm and it does
    sound like it is out of my comfort zone. Thanks
     
    joecj7, Feb 22, 2007
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