Odyssey transmission troubles?

[Glenn Holliday]

One day last week my 2002 Odyssey suddenly refused to shift up from 2nd into 3rd. I was in slow moving city traffic at the time. I pulled off, turned the car off, restarted, and all was well after.

The car was checked for the trans heating recall two months ago. The dealer at that time said there was no problem with my trans, and made no changes then.

A Honda dealer service desk and two independent trans shops all told me they've never heard of this. None of them can do any diagnostic unless it turns on the check engine light or the problem becomes repeatable. I also can't find any mention of this symptom on the Internet.

Is there any history or knowledge about this problem?
Is the correct remedy don't worry, be happy till it
happens again?

Thanks for any info.

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

One day last week my 2002 Odyssey suddenly refused to shift up from 2nd into 3rd. I was in slow moving city traffic at the time. I pulled off, turned the car off, restarted, and all was well after.

The car was checked for the trans heating recall two months ago. The dealer at that time said there was no problem with my trans, and made no changes then.

A Honda dealer service desk and two independent trans shops all told me they've never heard of this. None of them can do any diagnostic unless it turns on the check engine light or the problem becomes repeatable. I also can't find any mention of this symptom on the Internet.

Is there any history or knowledge about this problem?
Is the correct remedy don't worry, be happy till it
happens again?

Thanks for any info.

http://www.odyclub.com

I guarantee there's history and knowledge of this problem. People at odyclub.com have even used what's posted on odyclub.com to make Honda pony up for a new transmission.

This is the age of the net. They can't hide behind the "we've never heard of it before" defense.

 

[chip]

http://www.odyclub.com

I guarantee there's history and knowledge of this problem. People at odyclub.com have even used what's posted on odyclub.com to make Honda pony up for a new transmission.

This is the age of the net. They can't hide behind the "we've never heard of it before" defense.

if you can't duplicate the symptom, the dealer won't waste their time. they don't give a crap about odyclub.com. you either have a problem or you don't Chip

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

This is the age of the net. They can't hide behind the "we've never heard of it before" defense.

if you can't duplicate the symptom, the dealer won't waste their time. they don't give a crap about odyclub.com. you either have a problem or you don't[/QUOTE]

People on odyclub report using the reports on odyclub.com to force Honda's hand. Honda does its best to claim that they've never heard of something, but having proof that someone else's transmission was replaced by Honda for the exact same issue is pretty damn strong.

They can't hide behind the "we've never heard of it before" defense when there's hard proof that Honda has indeed heard of it before, to the point where Honda replaced the transmission for free.

 

[Mista Bone]

How to kill a Honda Accord/Ody tranny in 30 secoonds or less........

Step on brakes HARD, step on GAS hard. In 30 seconds or less you'll kill the tranny. Honda covers under SILENT extended warranty because the trannys are JUNK!!!!!!

Last time I heard there was a 3-4 week waiting list of people waiting to get rebuilt trannys from Honda, they are backlogged that bad!

"Silent Recalls" gotta love the idea

if you can't duplicate the symptom, the dealer won't waste their time. they don't give a crap about odyclub.com. you either have a problem or you don't

People on odyclub report using the reports on odyclub.com to force Honda's hand. Honda does its best to claim that they've never heard of something, but having proof that someone else's transmission was replaced by Honda for the exact same issue is pretty damn strong.

They can't hide behind the "we've never heard of it before" defense when there's hard proof that Honda has indeed heard of it before, to the point where Honda replaced the transmission for free.[/QUOTE]

 

[chip]

How to kill a Honda Accord/Ody tranny in 30 secoonds or less........

Step on brakes HARD, step on GAS hard. In 30 seconds or less you'll kill the tranny. Honda covers under SILENT extended warranty because the trannys are JUNK!!!!!!

Last time I heard there was a 3-4 week waiting list of people waiting to get rebuilt trannys from Honda, they are backlogged that bad!

"Silent Recalls" gotta love the idea

granted honda trannys are getting a bad reputation, but tranny replacement only accounts for about 3% of warranty claims. as for 3-4 week waiting list... did you pull that number out of yor ass????? Whenever i order a tranny, it gets there within 3 days. always has. silent warranty? there's an open campaign on them 7years or 100,000 miles, published in the papers, not so silent.
Chip

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

silent warranty? there's an open campaign on them 7years or 100,000 miles, published in the papers, not so silent.

I think he's referring to the fact that Honda has always had quiet campaigns where they take care of people who appear to fall outside of the published recalls.

Go back and look to see if there was any official recall for the 79 Civic for either its front beam or its gas tank. You won't find it--because they never did recall those. However, if someone came in with a problem, Honda quietly took care of it.

Now, myself, I don't mind Honda's quiet methods. I'm the type who will ask for Honda to take care of things, and if there's an "unofficial, quiet" campaign, Honda will.

However, the people who get all bent out of shape about something like that are the people who expect that they should never have to ask, that they should be spoon-fed everything they want if it's available in any capacity whatsoever. These people expect the service writer or service manager to offer to handle everything without ever being asked.

In other words, these people want the moon.

I say, go ask for what you want. The world is not here to serve any of us. At least ASK for Honda to take care of an obvious problem.

So with respect to transmissions, are there situations where Honda is replacing transmissions for issues that appear to be outside the recall? Undoubtedly. Are they advertising that fact? Undoubtedly not.

 

[SoCalMike]

How to kill a Honda Accord/Ody tranny in 30 secoonds or less........

Step on brakes HARD, step on GAS hard. In 30 seconds or less you'll kill the tranny.

just curious what FWD tranny *would* be able to deal with abuse like that?

 

[Mista Bone]

Local dealership ran out of "loaners" to cover the Accords/Odys that were sitting awaiting rebuilt trannys to come in from Honda.

The techs get 6-7 hours time to do swap in the rebuilt trannys, usually can get it done in 3.5-4 hours. That includes replacing the ECU in the Accords which detunes the engines power output so the rebuilt trannys will last longer.

 

[chip]

Local dealership ran out of "loaners" to cover the Accords/Odys that were sitting awaiting rebuilt trannys to come in from Honda.

The techs get 6-7 hours time to do swap in the rebuilt trannys, usually can get it done in 3.5-4 hours. That includes replacing the ECU in the Accords which detunes the engines power output so the rebuilt trannys will last longer.

hoda pays for a rental car on the warranty if the car stays. the odessy has an updated ECU, but haven't seen on e for an accord. flate rate time is 5-6 hours, and after doing many of them yes i can get it done in just under 2. honda has 3 companies i believe doing rebuild now. the bought up cores from bone yards everywhere. if they don't have reman, i've gotten several brand new ones. all internal components are replaced and each one is dyno tested now.
Chip

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

hoda pays for a rental car on the warranty if the car stays. the odessy has an updated ECU, but haven't seen on e for an accord. flate rate time is 5-6 hours, and after doing many of them yes i can get it done in just under 2. honda has 3 companies i believe doing rebuild now. the bought up cores from bone yards everywhere. if they don't have reman, i've gotten several brand new ones. all internal components are replaced and each one is dyno tested now.

Yeah, but are they just putting the same bad designs back into the cars, or have they fixed the design?

 

[Glenn Holliday]

Thanks for the advice.

silent warranty? there's an open campaign on them 7years or 100,000 miles, published in the papers, not so silent.
Chip

I assume you're thinking of a different model/year? I looked again at my warranty book on the '02 Odyssey, and it says 36,000 miles. Did I miss out on something? (I just clicked over 100,000 miles since my original post.)

 

[E. Meyer]

Thanks for the advice.

I assume you're thinking of a different model/year? I looked again at my warranty book on the '02 Odyssey, and it says 36,000 miles. Did I miss out on something? (I just clicked over 100,000 miles since my original post.)

Its not in the warranty book. You should have gotten a letter from Honda.

 

[Glenn Holliday]

Its not in the warranty book. You should have gotten a letter from Honda.

Nope, we got 2 recall notices on this vehicle, but nothing about extending the warranty.

 

[Glenn Holliday]

One day last week my 2002 Odyssey suddenly refused to shift up from 2nd into 3rd.

Yesterday this happened again. I found that if I backed off and accelerated extremely gently, the trans then shifted normally. This car has not been subjected to fierce acceleration. It's now at 100,700 miles, none of them abusive, and the transmission has not exhibited a problem until the past 3 weeks. Still no check engine light, so Honda says they can't do anything about it.

I'm grateful for the replies to this thread. It sounds like others have other troubles with this transmission, but this particular symptom is not well-known.

I'm going to have to decide if it's safe to take my family far from home in this car for Easter. I'll let you know if I learn more facts about this problem.

 

[Imminent Vengeance]

Nope, we got 2 recall notices on this vehicle, but nothing about extending the warranty.

Is your automatic a 4-speed or 5-speed? IIRC, the extended warranty applies to the 4-speed, while recalls were issued for the 5-speed.

 

[E. Meyer]

Nope, we got 2 recall notices on this vehicle, but nothing about extending the warranty.

If you are in the US, you can register on the owner's link on the Honda webpage and it will list all the recalls and warranty extensions that specifically apply to your vehicle. Since you've already gone over 100,000 miles though, its probably moot unless you can find a kind hearted dealer.