Odyssey rear brake system

[Daniel]

I replaced the front pads on my 2002 Odyssey after driving 40000 km mostly
city driving (70%). One of the 4 pads had 2/16 in material left : time
to change. New OEM pads from Honda dealer had almost 7/16 in of material.

I also checked one rear wheel. Discovered that the rear rotor is in fact a
rotor/drum combination (Large heavy part, must be very expensive to
replace if required. Would be wise not to over extend the life of the rear
pads to avoid abusing this rotor.)

Rotor brake pads act for normal braking, while the parking brake cable
runs inside the drum , where I assume it actuates some kind of brake shoes
againts the drum, like any regular drum/shoe rear brake system. ( I have not
removed the rotor/drum part to see for myself inside the drum).

The rear pads had 3/16 in material left. What is the minimum lining
thickness recommended for rear wheels on this vehicule? I know in general
rear wheels allow smaller thickness than front wheels. I also use the
following rule of thumb: if all 4 wheels brakes are in good operating
condition, rear pads/shoes should last twice as long as the front ones.

How does the parking cable brake system auto-adjust, if it has any
auto-adjusting system at all?

Thanks
Daniel Montreal

 

[Daniel]

Thanks George.

You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
(because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.

That's not what I've found with Honda rear disk brakes on their smaller
lighter cars - the rear pads wear out at ~40K miles and the fronts at ~70K
miles with moderate brake usage. Honda usually specs 1.6mm (.06") as the
wear limit for pad lining, so you may have a little while to go but you
have to be careful since often, the inner pad wears more quickly than the
outer and is more difficult to see.


There's a diagram at the above Website and it shows what looks like a
manual adjuster for the rear shoes - I guess they're not going to wear much
if they are only used for parking.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,

me??

 

[Daniel]

Thanks George.

You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
(because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.

That's not what I've found with Honda rear disk brakes on their smaller
lighter cars - the rear pads wear out at ~40K miles and the fronts at ~70K
miles with moderate brake usage. Honda usually specs 1.6mm (.06") as the
wear limit for pad lining, so you may have a little while to go but you
have to be careful since often, the inner pad wears more quickly than the
outer and is more difficult to see.


There's a diagram at the above Website and it shows what looks like a
manual adjuster for the rear shoes - I guess they're not going to wear much
if they are only used for parking.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,

me??

 

[Me]

Thanks George.

You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
(because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.

I once owned a car with disks on the rear but small drums for the handbrake
(U.K Vauxhall Cavalier), the manual advised periodically engaging the
handbrake at low speed to clean and adjust the drums.

 

[Me]

Thanks George.

You are right about the rear cable brake adjustment. They should not wear
(because no friction involved when wheels are not turning) , therefore no
dynamic or self adjustment mechanism required.

I once owned a car with disks on the rear but small drums for the handbrake
(U.K Vauxhall Cavalier), the manual advised periodically engaging the
handbrake at low speed to clean and adjust the drums.

 

[MZ]

I don't know about your Odyssey, but on other vehicles a cable adjustment is
enough, and can be done at the hand brake (under the cover).

Martin

 

[MZ]

I don't know about your Odyssey, but on other vehicles a cable adjustment is
enough, and can be done at the hand brake (under the cover).

Martin