New Or Used 2010 Civic Coupe..

Discussion in 'Civic' started by JD, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. JD

    JD Guest

    I have a choice at the local dealership between a new or used Honda
    Civic Coupe LX. The three new ones have less than 10 miles but the used
    one only has 7,700 miles. The used one is about $1,000 less than the new
    ones. All four are gun metal gray with light gray interiors. The only
    difference is one is used.

    The dealership tells me the used one was purchased by one of their old
    salesmen that lives about 30 miles away so most of the 7,700 miles were
    what they're calling highway miles. His round trip to work was 60 miles
    a day. He sold it because his family got bigger and he purchased a Honda

    I don't have access to the Honda user's manual so I'm not familiar with
    their suggested break in routine. My concern is most of the miles during
    the break in period were probably highway miles.

    Do I save the $1,000 and take the used one or buy a new one and break it
    in my way? I generally follow the manufacturer's break in
    recommendations but push the car a little harder since I drive fast. All
    my new cars have been broken in this way and I've never had an engine

    Should the dealership be offering the used one for a lower price?
    JD, Sep 27, 2010
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    J.L.Hemmer Guest

    Is it Honda certified with the extended warranty?
    J.L.Hemmer, Sep 27, 2010
  3. JD

    JD Guest

    From what I can tell, if I want the extended warranty then it will cost
    an extra $1,500. They offer it on their web page without the extended
    warranty but offer it online through another web page with the warranty
    for a higher price. The price difference is $1,500. The used one with
    the extended warranty cost more than the new ones. It's only an extra
    year warranty.

    Seems a bit pricey to me. It's basically a new car with 7,700 miles. Is
    the extra year warranty worth the extra money? Seems like I'd be better
    off with a new one or the used one without the extended warranty?

    I should look into this. If they will sell it at their web page price
    with the extended warranty, without the $1,500 price increase, then the
    used one might be better? Unless the first owner didn't take care of it.

    My preference would be a car that doesn't need any warranty repairs.
    JD, Sep 27, 2010
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    Al Guest

    Buy the new one. Try to get another few hundred off, don't forget it's
    end of the model year time, and they are holding 3 identical 2010 grey
    ones. Also, don't necessarily believe the "salesman bought it" story.
    Sounds like an update to "little old lady who just drove it to church"
    story. Don't forget, car dealerships will say whatever you want to
    hear. You will never know what that car went through the first 7700
    miles. How many curbs hit, how many potholes, accidents, replaced
    windshields, etc. And consider this, would you buy a new car and let me
    use it for a year and put 7700 miles on it for $1000? If so send your
    address and I'll bring cash.
    Al, Sep 27, 2010
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    Clete Guest

    I can't believe a used Civic is only $1000 cheaper than a new one. Me
    thinks someone is yankin yer chain.
    Clete, Sep 27, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    On 09/27/2010 06:43 AM, Al wrote:
    no kidding.
    jim beam, Sep 27, 2010
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    JD Guest

    The used Civic may come with the Honda certified warranty. I haven't
    talked to the dealership about this.
    JD, Sep 27, 2010
  8. JD

    JD Guest

    Good points. I thought a new car lost 15% to 20% of it's value when it
    was driven off the lot. The used one may come with the Honda certified
    warranty. One web page says it has it, one web page says it doesn't.

    I've seen the car fax for the used one and it doesn't have any negative
    JD, Sep 27, 2010
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    J.L.Hemmer Guest

    Even with the extended warranty, I sure would be going for new.
    J.L.Hemmer, Sep 28, 2010
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    SnakeEyes Guest

    I have a 2008 Honda Civic LX Couple and love it......except for one

    It's a bitch to get in and out of. I'm not a big man, but I am 67 and
    feel it. To get into the car, I have to recline the back of the seat,
    and literally fall into the car ass first, then straighten the back.
    It's fun to do but not pleasant. Getting out is also a contortion
    act. I have to recline the seat and haul myself out with a chorus of
    accompanying grunts.

    Oh yeah, once inside, there is no way you can reach the seatbelt
    without either moving the seat back or reclining it, unless, of
    course, you have 36 inch arms.

    I wish you luck with whichever car you choose and hope very much you
    aren't arthiritic : )

    SnakeEyes, Sep 28, 2010
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    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Erh, really, what kind of "break in". Modern engines don't really
    need one. A rebuilt, yes. But not a new one. Same with pads and
    disks (but not drums).
    I have about 21 weeks on the used car (likely closer to 18 or 19).

    Kelley shows private party to be $18500, dealer is $20K. This is

    I'm will to bet you can get the used price down, and the same with the
    new. You're call.

    - dillon I am not invalid

    Toby (Tri-Umph That's the Sweet Truth)
    March 1998 - June 2010
    What a dog. What a dog!
    Dillon Pyron, Sep 28, 2010
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    JD Guest


    Ouch! I'm 58 and I feel it but I had no problem entering or exiting the
    Coupe when I did the test drives. I've got a few more test drives to go
    so I'll pay particular attention to entry and exit because I plan to
    have this car when I'm 76.

    Seat belts weren't a problem either but I'll look at those next test drive.

    What I did notice is it's easier to enter and exit than my 92 Civic 2
    door hatch which sits really low to the ground.
    JD, Sep 29, 2010
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    JD Guest

    So they say. I don't really believe that. I like to break them in, just
    in case. The Coupe comes with drums on the rear but I've never been too
    concerned with breaking those in. My first new car was a 1968 Pontiac
    Firebird so I've broken new cars before. :cool:
    So far, they're not really giving me any great price breaks considering
    the new and used are 2010 models and they're starting to get 2011 models
    in. A new car loses about 15% to 20% when one drives it off the lot and
    I'd like to see that and more reflected in the price of the used one.
    JD, Sep 29, 2010
  14. JD

    JD Guest

    I'm trying to get them to let me keep the used one for a couple of days
    so I can check it out. If they don't make me a great deal and/or I find
    something I don't like about the used one then I'll see what they can do
    with the new ones. The ball appears to be in my court? They've got four
    of these, new models are arriving daily. Make me a deal! :cool:
    JD, Sep 29, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    puhleeze. if you think a 68 pontiac has even remotely the same
    engineering quality or materials quality as a 2010 civic, you need your
    head testing. significantly higher precision and materials put the
    civic in a whole different league. just do what it says in the owners
    manual and forget about it.

    dude, for crying out loud, move on. this dealer is pulling your chain.
    each time you go back or call, they know they've got you on the hook.
    all they're waiting to do now is gaffe you in the back of the head and
    drag you in the boat, helpless, breathless, bleeding and brain-dead.
    then they're going to go out and get laid in vegas with all the money
    you've over-paid for that piece of crap.

    here is how you buy a car:

    1. test drive with different dealers and decide exactly what you want.
    color, model, options, EVERYTHING. make a detailed written list. DO

    2. call, fax or email that list to dealers, stating VERY CLEARLY that
    you're shopping on price. be nice, but firm.

    3. see what they come back with, and choose the best deal. do not let
    they "bait and switch" with the bullshit where once you've driven out
    there, "we made a mistake, it's actually $x,xxx more than we said". be
    nice but firm on the quote they gave you. if they won't budge, just
    turn around and walk out.

    4. make sure you contact dealers farther away than you might normally
    consider. for instance, in the san francisco bay area where i live,
    civic dealers are all above msrp, and consistent within about $100. can
    you say "price collusion"? however, if you go about 2 hours away,
    prices start to become a lot more flexible. especially sacramento where
    their economy is in the toilet. los angeles is another place large
    enough where dealers actually compete for business so again, prices
    aren't too bad. but the point is, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. if the price is
    right, you should even consider going out of state.

    here's another tip if you're considering paying cash: don't. tell the
    dealer you're going to finance the vehicle. make sure there is either
    no or only a small repayment cost, then just pay off the loan once
    you've done the purchase. dealers get commission on finance and they
    sometimes roll that into the price of what they're prepared to negotiate
    if they think they're going to get that extra income.

    now stop farting about and get yourself sorted.
    jim beam, Sep 29, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    that's ridiculous. i'd charge you double, just on principle.
    jim beam, Sep 29, 2010
  17. JD

    JD Guest

    How more helpful can you be? I live in the middle of west Texas. How
    much am I going to save going "out of state" as you so eloquently put
    it. Give me a percentage. The MSRP of the Coupe is $18,500. How much can
    I save? Give me a dollar amount, not a bunch of Jim Beam fueled bullshit.

    Oh, did I mention? Jim Beam is the world's top-selling bourbon whiskey.
    Do you get a discount by posting here with their name?

    I know how to play their game. Post something I can use. I'm not going
    to California to save a few bucks.

    Be nice, not firm? Twice you used that. Is that some San Fran thing?
    You're tripping. Go away.

    And by the way, I don't have the fucking owner's manual since I haven't
    bought the fucking car so I don't know what it says about the break in.
    Sorry. And I don't really care. My point with the old Firebird, shit,
    why am I wasting my time with the world's top-selling bourbon whiskey

    I'm not wasting any more of my time.
    JD, Sep 29, 2010
  18. JD

    JD Guest

    Thank God I'm not buying the car from a whiskey-named poster. If I have
    the opportunity to keep it for a couple of days to get a feel for it,
    how is that ridiculous? Better yet, don't even waste my time or anyone's
    time in this newsgroup by replying. Have drink on me, Jim Beam. Cheers!

    Jim Beam is the world's top-selling bourbon whiskey.
    JD, Sep 29, 2010
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    jim beam Guest

    On 09/28/2010 09:30 PM, JD wrote:
    so that's why you posted more of your myopic stupidity at 9:35 PM?

    jim beam, Sep 29, 2010
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    Dave Kelsen Guest

    If you have read here for a few years, you'd know that I've called Beam
    everything but a child of god; he's no buddy of mine. Everything he
    said here is good general advice. It could be that some of it doesn't
    apply to your specific condition, but if you don't understand what
    you're reading, you're wasting your time. And ours. Sober up, use
    Beam's advice, and buy a car.

    Dave Kelsen
    Dave Kelsen, Sep 29, 2010
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