New keys & locks for 97 Honda Accord = new immobiliser?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Al Reynolds, Oct 4, 2008.

  1. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    Hi,

    I have a 97 Honda Accord Aerodeck (Wagon) and one of the keys was in my bag
    which was stolen. Unfortunately my address was on my driving licence which
    was also in the bag, and it's also possible that the person who stole the
    bag knows me and knows which is my car. As such I probably need to get the
    locks changed.

    I still have the original red programming key, plus one black key and one
    grey (valet) key.

    My question is: how much do I actually need to get changed?

    I was hoping that I would be able to get a new set of keys and locks (1
    ignition, 1 boot, 2 doors + 1 glovebox) and then train the new keys to the
    car, but I don't know if a new set of keys and locks can be trained to the
    immobiliser which is already in the car? Is it possible that I might need a
    new immobiliser unit as well?

    Thanks in advance,
    Al Reynolds
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 4, 2008
    #1
  2. Al Reynolds

    jim beam Guest

    dude, it's an 11 year old car. and it's an accord wagon. and it's just
    a key - they don't know what car it's for. if you were a crack-head
    looking to make a couple of bucks by trying to steal some guy's bag and
    hoping to get your laptop, but instead, all they get is a bunch of
    soiled undies, a few bucks from a wallet, and a drivers license, do you
    really think they're going to drive across town to your house, just in
    case this key with "honda" written on it is something sexy like a
    prelude? or an s2000? no, they're going to dump your stuff in an alley
    and head on out. maybe you'll get a call in 6 months from your local
    cop shop asking whether you want your stuff back, but after it's been
    part of the local vagrants urinal facilities for the intervening period,
    maybe not.

    besides, the cost of the lock change you're looking at is gigantic.
    just get a steering wheel lock and forget about it.
     
    jim beam, Oct 4, 2008
    #2
  3. Al Reynolds

    jim beam Guest

    dude, it's an 11 year old car. and it's an accord wagon. and it's just
    a key - they don't know what car it's for. if you were a crack-head
    looking to make a couple of bucks by trying to steal some guy's bag and
    hoping to get your laptop, but instead, all they get is a bunch of
    soiled undies, a few bucks from a wallet, and a drivers license, do you
    really think they're going to drive across town to your house, just in
    case this key with "honda" written on it is something sexy like a
    prelude? or an s2000? no, they're going to dump your stuff in an alley
    and head on out. maybe you'll get a call in 6 months from your local
    cop shop asking whether you want your stuff back, but after it's been
    part of the local vagrants urinal facilities for the intervening period,
    maybe not.

    besides, the cost of the lock change you're looking at is gigantic.
    just get a steering wheel lock and forget about it.
     
    jim beam, Oct 4, 2008
    #3
  4. Al Reynolds

    jim beam Guest

    dude, it's an 11 year old car. and it's an accord wagon. and it's just
    a key - they don't know what car it's for. if you were a crack-head
    looking to make a couple of bucks by trying to steal some guy's bag and
    hoping to get your laptop, but instead, all they get is a bunch of
    soiled undies, a few bucks from a wallet, and a drivers license, do you
    really think they're going to drive across town to your house, just in
    case this key with "honda" written on it is something sexy like a
    prelude? or an s2000? no, they're going to dump your stuff in an alley
    and head on out. maybe you'll get a call in 6 months from your local
    cop shop asking whether you want your stuff back, but after it's been
    part of the local vagrants urinal facilities for the intervening period,
    maybe not.

    besides, the cost of the lock change you're looking at is gigantic.
    just get a steering wheel lock and forget about it.
     
    jim beam, Oct 4, 2008
    #4
  5. Al Reynolds

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hey,
    Easy on him. That Honda may be his asset no. 1.
    I couldn'care less for a 11 year old car.
    Changing key/locks on doors may cost more than the value of car, LOL!
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 4, 2008
    #5
  6. Al Reynolds

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hey,
    Easy on him. That Honda may be his asset no. 1.
    I couldn'care less for a 11 year old car.
    Changing key/locks on doors may cost more than the value of car, LOL!
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 4, 2008
    #6
  7. Al Reynolds

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hey,
    Easy on him. That Honda may be his asset no. 1.
    I couldn'care less for a 11 year old car.
    Changing key/locks on doors may cost more than the value of car, LOL!
     
    Tony Hwang, Oct 4, 2008
    #7
  8. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    In a way, you're both right.

    If I'd just had it nicked by a stranger I'd not be bothered about the lost
    key
    at all, but there's a strong possibility that this person works on the same
    site
    as me, and if they're prepared to nick my bag then they might well go back
    to my car for more. I don't want to never be able to leave anything
    valuable
    in my car.

    I was surprised to find that my local Honda service department were open
    this morning, so I asked about possibilities. Top-end is replacement of the
    whole system including all lock cylinders, keys, and the immobiliser unit
    all
    for £1000, which is more than double what the car is worth! Bottom end
    of what they could offer would be to change just the door and tailgate locks
    with non-coded keys so that I would have one key to open the doors and
    one to start the car. This way if someone does have the key they can't get
    in without breaking in, but they still wanted £300 just for that!

    My car is only worth about £400 but to replace it with something similar
    would cost me a lot more, and I wouldn't know what I was getting - I know
    my car because I've kept it serviced and looked after it well, and that has
    a lot of value in my book.

    My current plan? I'm going for disabling the passenger and boot locks
    (with a screwdriver), and I'll try and pick up a drivers door lock cylinder
    and matching key so I can replace that cylinder. I hopefully should be able
    to do the whole lot for less than £50.

    If anyone has any better ideas I'd happily hear them!

    Al
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 4, 2008
    #8
  9. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    In a way, you're both right.

    If I'd just had it nicked by a stranger I'd not be bothered about the lost
    key
    at all, but there's a strong possibility that this person works on the same
    site
    as me, and if they're prepared to nick my bag then they might well go back
    to my car for more. I don't want to never be able to leave anything
    valuable
    in my car.

    I was surprised to find that my local Honda service department were open
    this morning, so I asked about possibilities. Top-end is replacement of the
    whole system including all lock cylinders, keys, and the immobiliser unit
    all
    for £1000, which is more than double what the car is worth! Bottom end
    of what they could offer would be to change just the door and tailgate locks
    with non-coded keys so that I would have one key to open the doors and
    one to start the car. This way if someone does have the key they can't get
    in without breaking in, but they still wanted £300 just for that!

    My car is only worth about £400 but to replace it with something similar
    would cost me a lot more, and I wouldn't know what I was getting - I know
    my car because I've kept it serviced and looked after it well, and that has
    a lot of value in my book.

    My current plan? I'm going for disabling the passenger and boot locks
    (with a screwdriver), and I'll try and pick up a drivers door lock cylinder
    and matching key so I can replace that cylinder. I hopefully should be able
    to do the whole lot for less than £50.

    If anyone has any better ideas I'd happily hear them!

    Al
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 4, 2008
    #9
  10. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    In a way, you're both right.

    If I'd just had it nicked by a stranger I'd not be bothered about the lost
    key
    at all, but there's a strong possibility that this person works on the same
    site
    as me, and if they're prepared to nick my bag then they might well go back
    to my car for more. I don't want to never be able to leave anything
    valuable
    in my car.

    I was surprised to find that my local Honda service department were open
    this morning, so I asked about possibilities. Top-end is replacement of the
    whole system including all lock cylinders, keys, and the immobiliser unit
    all
    for £1000, which is more than double what the car is worth! Bottom end
    of what they could offer would be to change just the door and tailgate locks
    with non-coded keys so that I would have one key to open the doors and
    one to start the car. This way if someone does have the key they can't get
    in without breaking in, but they still wanted £300 just for that!

    My car is only worth about £400 but to replace it with something similar
    would cost me a lot more, and I wouldn't know what I was getting - I know
    my car because I've kept it serviced and looked after it well, and that has
    a lot of value in my book.

    My current plan? I'm going for disabling the passenger and boot locks
    (with a screwdriver), and I'll try and pick up a drivers door lock cylinder
    and matching key so I can replace that cylinder. I hopefully should be able
    to do the whole lot for less than £50.

    If anyone has any better ideas I'd happily hear them!

    Al
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 4, 2008
    #10
  11. Al Reynolds

    Mrcheerful Guest

    disconnecting the locks would be better than wrecking them and
    confusing.(free) adding a deadlock to the drivers door would keep them out
    (20 quid) Adding a disclok would mean the car is undrivable (70 quid) An
    alarm system with pager will warn you wherever you are (100 quid) A hidden
    switch will prevent it starting even with the right key (very cheap)

    Mrcheerful
     
    Mrcheerful, Oct 4, 2008
    #11
  12. Al Reynolds

    Mrcheerful Guest

    disconnecting the locks would be better than wrecking them and
    confusing.(free) adding a deadlock to the drivers door would keep them out
    (20 quid) Adding a disclok would mean the car is undrivable (70 quid) An
    alarm system with pager will warn you wherever you are (100 quid) A hidden
    switch will prevent it starting even with the right key (very cheap)

    Mrcheerful
     
    Mrcheerful, Oct 4, 2008
    #12
  13. Al Reynolds

    Mrcheerful Guest

    disconnecting the locks would be better than wrecking them and
    confusing.(free) adding a deadlock to the drivers door would keep them out
    (20 quid) Adding a disclok would mean the car is undrivable (70 quid) An
    alarm system with pager will warn you wherever you are (100 quid) A hidden
    switch will prevent it starting even with the right key (very cheap)

    Mrcheerful
     
    Mrcheerful, Oct 4, 2008
    #13
  14. Al Reynolds

    Woody Guest

    All you need to do is reprogram the immobilizer with the keys you have. The
    old key will not then start the car. I would forget worrying about your keys
    and start warring about identity threat as with your drivers license he can
    steal a lot more...
     
    Woody, Oct 4, 2008
    #14
  15. Al Reynolds

    Woody Guest

    All you need to do is reprogram the immobilizer with the keys you have. The
    old key will not then start the car. I would forget worrying about your keys
    and start warring about identity threat as with your drivers license he can
    steal a lot more...
     
    Woody, Oct 4, 2008
    #15
  16. Al Reynolds

    Woody Guest

    All you need to do is reprogram the immobilizer with the keys you have. The
    old key will not then start the car. I would forget worrying about your keys
    and start warring about identity threat as with your drivers license he can
    steal a lot more...
     
    Woody, Oct 4, 2008
    #16
  17. Al Reynolds

    Jim Yanik Guest

    relocated idiot top poster's comments...


    yes;he now knows where you live,and possibly has your house keys,too.
    And don't forget any garage door openers;that's an EASY way into someone's
    house,as they can close the garage door after entry,and have lots of time
    to work on an inner door unseen by neighbors.
     
    Jim Yanik, Oct 4, 2008
    #17
  18. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    Indeed.

    It's a pisser.

    Al
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 5, 2008
    #18
  19. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    Indeed.

    It's a pisser.

    Al
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 5, 2008
    #19
  20. Al Reynolds

    Al Reynolds Guest

    Indeed.

    It's a pisser.

    Al
     
    Al Reynolds, Oct 5, 2008
    #20
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