new Honda CR-V break in

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by Guy, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    yes they do!!! wear product is proportional to wear, prior to
    saturation!!! unless of course you believe it all disappears into some
    kind of engine black hole and "hides" somewhere.

    straw clutching drivel.

    wow retard, you've still got that reading comprehension problem!

    was it like your "burnt valve discussion"? you know, where you didn't
    listen and jumped to a bunch of erroneous conclusions because you don't
    understand what you're talking about??? [rhetorical]

    how inconvenient - you can't find the stuff that corrects your "mistakes".

    as you evidently do! the problem being that /your/ "conclusions" are so
    "free", they don't bother to take into account the facts!

    like we can read your research contributions to "journal of tribology"?

    "i believe" - gotta love this faith-based engineering - solves all
    problems of ignorance!


    oh dear - more reading non-comprehension. is your old junior school
    teacher is still alive? they really f-ed you over.

    i seriously doubt you have the capacity to learn a single damned thing -
    too much bullshit in your head to allow anything new to fit in.

    wow, you mean that the millions of dollars manufacturers spend on
    research, and the millions of dollars the industrial, transportation,
    military and aerospace users of oil analysis spend could actually have
    some purpose??? amazing!!!
     
    jim beam, Jan 19, 2010
  2. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    yes they do!!! wear product is proportional to wear, prior to
    saturation!!! unless of course you believe it all disappears into some
    kind of engine black hole and "hides" somewhere.

    straw clutching drivel.

    wow retard, you've still got that reading comprehension problem!

    was it like your "burnt valve discussion"? you know, where you didn't
    listen and jumped to a bunch of erroneous conclusions because you don't
    understand what you're talking about??? [rhetorical]

    how inconvenient - you can't find the stuff that corrects your "mistakes".

    as you evidently do! the problem being that /your/ "conclusions" are so
    "free", they don't bother to take into account the facts!

    like we can read your research contributions to "journal of tribology"?

    "i believe" - gotta love this faith-based engineering - solves all
    problems of ignorance!


    oh dear - more reading non-comprehension. is your old junior school
    teacher is still alive? they really f-ed you over.

    i seriously doubt you have the capacity to learn a single damned thing -
    too much bullshit in your head to allow anything new to fit in.

    wow, you mean that the millions of dollars manufacturers spend on
    research, and the millions of dollars the industrial, transportation,
    military and aerospace users of oil analysis spend could actually have
    some purpose??? amazing!!!
     
    jim beam, Jan 19, 2010
  3. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    you're making two false statements.

    1. that valves go from zero to burned in "milliseconds". that's bullshit.

    2. you "self limiting" theory is bullshit too.

    if you understood viscosity [along with flow dynamics], you'd not be
    making these retarded false statements. but if you ever had the desire
    to understand, which you obviously don't, you'd be asking questions, not
    bullshitting.

    er, the valve we are discussing is mine. i therefore have had the
    opportunity to examine it closely. the burn mechanism is as described.
    you otoh are guessing wildly and wrongly, and are a fucking moron for
    arguing about something you've never seen!

    bullshit, moron.

    1. it's an exhaust valve, not intake. the exhaust is "being diluted" by
    air/fuel, not the other way around.

    2. valves burn over time. the more time, the bigger the hole. just
    like your brain.

    freakin' hollywood fantasy moron.

    oh, sorry, discussion of principle too hard for you? [rhetorical]
    because if you don't understand the principles, [sic] you sure aren't
    going to understand the practice!

    er, my physical reality is that i own the valve, dipshit. and i've done
    metallurgy on valves like this, dipshit.

    of course from the fact that you're a clueless retard that's got not the
    slightest understanding of the technology doesn't stop you shooting your
    dumb mouth off, but at least /try/ and learn what you clearly don't know.
     
    jim beam, Jan 19, 2010
  4. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    you're making two false statements.

    1. that valves go from zero to burned in "milliseconds". that's bullshit.

    2. you "self limiting" theory is bullshit too.

    if you understood viscosity [along with flow dynamics], you'd not be
    making these retarded false statements. but if you ever had the desire
    to understand, which you obviously don't, you'd be asking questions, not
    bullshitting.

    er, the valve we are discussing is mine. i therefore have had the
    opportunity to examine it closely. the burn mechanism is as described.
    you otoh are guessing wildly and wrongly, and are a fucking moron for
    arguing about something you've never seen!

    bullshit, moron.

    1. it's an exhaust valve, not intake. the exhaust is "being diluted" by
    air/fuel, not the other way around.

    2. valves burn over time. the more time, the bigger the hole. just
    like your brain.

    freakin' hollywood fantasy moron.

    oh, sorry, discussion of principle too hard for you? [rhetorical]
    because if you don't understand the principles, [sic] you sure aren't
    going to understand the practice!

    er, my physical reality is that i own the valve, dipshit. and i've done
    metallurgy on valves like this, dipshit.

    of course from the fact that you're a clueless retard that's got not the
    slightest understanding of the technology doesn't stop you shooting your
    dumb mouth off, but at least /try/ and learn what you clearly don't know.
     
    jim beam, Jan 19, 2010
  5. Guy

    Greg Guest

    Damn, dude. You took yourself off your meds again, didn't ya?

    Seriously Jim, you are a SERIOUS fucknut. The abuse you spew is
    limitless. I'll bet you keep a supply of fresh towels at hand - to
    wipe the spittle from your keyboard and monitor.
     
    Greg, Jan 19, 2010
  6. Guy

    Greg Guest

    Damn, dude. You took yourself off your meds again, didn't ya?

    Seriously Jim, you are a SERIOUS fucknut. The abuse you spew is
    limitless. I'll bet you keep a supply of fresh towels at hand - to
    wipe the spittle from your keyboard and monitor.
     
    Greg, Jan 19, 2010
  7. Guy

    Observer Guest


    I'd love to see what the oil looks like after 15k miles. I realize
    the quality of engines and oil is better than 30 years ago so it makes
    sense that the oil change interval is greater now (15k ???) but like
    Tegger, I prefer more frequent oil changes.
     
    Observer, Jan 19, 2010
  8. Guy

    Observer Guest


    I'd love to see what the oil looks like after 15k miles. I realize
    the quality of engines and oil is better than 30 years ago so it makes
    sense that the oil change interval is greater now (15k ???) but like
    Tegger, I prefer more frequent oil changes.
     
    Observer, Jan 19, 2010
  9. Guy

    News Guest


    And "pre-stressed" would be priced at a premium to "new".
     
    News, Jan 19, 2010
  10. Guy

    News Guest


    And "pre-stressed" would be priced at a premium to "new".
     
    News, Jan 19, 2010
  11. Guy

    Tegger Guest



    That's /exactly/ what I thought.

    If the benefits from "prestressing" were actually real, it would have some
    significant marketing advantage. Oil companies could simply heat the oil up
    in a tank for X-number of hours to reach peak effectiveness, then sell it
    with a big marketing campaign.

    Considering the unlikeliness of oil companies missing an opportunity for
    more cash by failing to market "prestressed" motor oil, I am now deeply
    suspicious of the whole "prestressed" idea.
     
    Tegger, Jan 20, 2010
  12. Guy

    Tegger Guest



    That's /exactly/ what I thought.

    If the benefits from "prestressing" were actually real, it would have some
    significant marketing advantage. Oil companies could simply heat the oil up
    in a tank for X-number of hours to reach peak effectiveness, then sell it
    with a big marketing campaign.

    Considering the unlikeliness of oil companies missing an opportunity for
    more cash by failing to market "prestressed" motor oil, I am now deeply
    suspicious of the whole "prestressed" idea.
     
    Tegger, Jan 20, 2010
  13. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    this is 20k mile mobil 1 "extended performance" oil.

    http://tinypic.com/r/29c402b/6

    [the brown resin you see in a couple of places is from before i had the
    car and was substantially worse.]
     
    jim beam, Jan 20, 2010
  14. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    this is 20k mile mobil 1 "extended performance" oil.

    http://tinypic.com/r/29c402b/6

    [the brown resin you see in a couple of places is from before i had the
    car and was substantially worse.]
     
    jim beam, Jan 20, 2010
  15. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    like when someone takes their oil to the recycling facility and
    generously donates it to the people that "refine" it, then sell it back
    as "motor oil"? what do people think happens to that stuff once the
    tanker collects it???

    besides, it doesn't make much sense to spend the time and money wearing
    out machines to produce this stuff when there are apparently limitless
    hordes willing to change their oil after only 3k miles, even with
    synthetic. more profitable to sell them new oil 5x more often than they
    really need.
     
    jim beam, Jan 20, 2010
  16. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    like when someone takes their oil to the recycling facility and
    generously donates it to the people that "refine" it, then sell it back
    as "motor oil"? what do people think happens to that stuff once the
    tanker collects it???

    besides, it doesn't make much sense to spend the time and money wearing
    out machines to produce this stuff when there are apparently limitless
    hordes willing to change their oil after only 3k miles, even with
    synthetic. more profitable to sell them new oil 5x more often than they
    really need.
     
    jim beam, Jan 20, 2010
  17. Guy

    Observer Guest


    I admit it looks good. I've never used synthetics in my cars. Years
    ago there was talk about being careful about sythetics because it
    might make older seals leak (perhaps due to its viscosity???). I
    don't know if that's still true but on the otherhand, I've read
    several people that do swear by the stuff.


    1-- Does anyone know if it's safe to use say Mobil 1 in

    a) older cars without the seals leaking?
    b) new or fairly new cars (low mileage)?

    2-- If you use say Mobil 1, do you use the same oil filter you would
    normally use siince it will stay in place longer?

    3-- Besides Mobil 1, any other worthy competitors?
    (I ask because I never hear of them, just Mobil 1)
     
    Observer, Jan 20, 2010
  18. Guy

    Observer Guest


    I admit it looks good. I've never used synthetics in my cars. Years
    ago there was talk about being careful about sythetics because it
    might make older seals leak (perhaps due to its viscosity???). I
    don't know if that's still true but on the otherhand, I've read
    several people that do swear by the stuff.


    1-- Does anyone know if it's safe to use say Mobil 1 in

    a) older cars without the seals leaking?
    b) new or fairly new cars (low mileage)?

    2-- If you use say Mobil 1, do you use the same oil filter you would
    normally use siince it will stay in place longer?

    3-- Besides Mobil 1, any other worthy competitors?
    (I ask because I never hear of them, just Mobil 1)
     
    Observer, Jan 20, 2010
  19. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    safe to use - mine is 20 years old, original seals. only leakage i've
    had recently is about the distributor, but that's a common honda problem
    and not specific to the oil.

    safe to use - original factory fill on several cars.

    i use an ordinary filter. hondas burn clean [when properly maintained
    anyway] so they don't produce excessive combustion product to clog the
    filter. i did change this car's filter at about 12k miles though - more
    for curiosity than anything else.

    no idea - i've been happy with these results so haven't experimented
    further.
     
    jim beam, Jan 20, 2010
  20. Guy

    jim beam Guest

    safe to use - mine is 20 years old, original seals. only leakage i've
    had recently is about the distributor, but that's a common honda problem
    and not specific to the oil.

    safe to use - original factory fill on several cars.

    i use an ordinary filter. hondas burn clean [when properly maintained
    anyway] so they don't produce excessive combustion product to clog the
    filter. i did change this car's filter at about 12k miles though - more
    for curiosity than anything else.

    no idea - i've been happy with these results so haven't experimented
    further.
     
    jim beam, Jan 20, 2010
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