New 2006 Accord VP

Discussion in 'Accord' started by beetlejuice, Sep 15, 2005.

  1. beetlejuice

    beetlejuice Guest

    The new Value Package model is similar to LX but has eliminated some
    features. One is the rear stabilizers. The dealer says this shouldn't
    effect the handling except under racing conditions.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on removing the rear stabilizers?

    thanks
     
    beetlejuice, Sep 15, 2005
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  2. beetlejuice

    Nightdude Guest

    You probably can buy the rear stabilizer for like 100$ after you buy the
    car. Most likely it's a
    bolt on.
     
    Nightdude, Sep 15, 2005
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  3. beetlejuice

    jmattis Guest

    Does anyone have any thoughts on removing the rear stabilizers?


    Racing conditions? You mean like, emergency handling!

    I'm really surprised that Honda is pulling this one. Usually only the
    real cheap-o econoboxes make do with just a front sway bar. I strongly
    feel the car will wallow during sharp course corrections. The only
    question is whether it will mostly just feel bad, or significantly
    affect the handling too.
     
    jmattis, Sep 15, 2005
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  4. beetlejuice

    jmattis Guest

    Racing conditions? You mean like, emergency handling!

    I'm really surprised that Honda is pulling this one. Usually only the
    real cheap-o econoboxes make do with just a front sway bar. I strongly
    feel the car will wallow during sharp course corrections. The only
    question is whether it will mostly just feel bad, or significantly
    affect the handling too.
     
    jmattis, Sep 15, 2005
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  5. beetlejuice

    Pars Guest

    Solid rear stabilizer will help to dial in 'over steer' (rear end comes out
    around the turn). This behavior is extremely advantages on the race track
    but can be very dangerous on the streets or in bad weather. I'm sure the
    Honda guys know what their doing by removing the rear bar...but, I would
    expect them to make the front bar less ridged (small diameter) to
    compensate.

    Pars
    98 Civic Hatch (without a front & rear stabalizer bar).
     
    Pars, Sep 15, 2005
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  6. beetlejuice

    jmattis Guest

    Pre-loaded rear stabilizers will have a marked effect in reducing
    understeer (or even creating oversteer). But, I'm not so sure whether
    the Accord's are
    pre-loaded, or just waiting for torsion to occur in turns.

    Without a rear sway bar, we're mostly talking about greater roll in
    turns, and possible high speed instability, wandering at high speeds.

    The rear stabilizer links the two rear springs in effect (becoming a
    third spring in the process). Honda may beef up the rear springs in
    value Accords which lack a rear stabilizer. I agree they may reduce
    the front sway bar diameter too.

    So, can you really add a rear sway bar and bring your value Accord
    right back to LX standards? I doubt it.

    The front bar may be too small. The rear springs may be too big.
     
    jmattis, Sep 15, 2005
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  7. beetlejuice

    beetlejuice Guest

    Thank you for the postings. Honda has told me that the only change is
    removal of the rear stabilizer. The rest is the same as the LX. But
    this was the local service guy.
     
    beetlejuice, Sep 16, 2005
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  8. beetlejuice

    jmattis Guest

    You'll have to find a cooperative parts guy at the dealer to be sure.
    Drill down until you are positive that the part numbers are actually
    the same.
     
    jmattis, Sep 17, 2005
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  9. beetlejuice

    bbtaco Guest

    That is not the only difference. The LX adds:

    All value package features, plus:
    6 speakers instead of only 2
    Body-colored power side mirrors
    Multi-reflector halogen headlights with auto-off
    Variable intermittent windshield wipers
    Slightly wider tires (205 vs 195)
    Center lockable armrest in the back seat
    Body colored door handles
    Chrome window trim
    2 additional beverage holders
    Adds illumination to the vanity mirrors
    Map lights
    Sunglasses holder
    Coin box
    An additional 12 volt power outlet
    Electronic remote trunk release
    Manual driver seat height adjustment


    bbtaco
     
    bbtaco, Sep 17, 2005
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  10. beetlejuice

    ps Guest

    sounds like the salesman has no clue. What a shock!
     
    ps, Sep 27, 2005
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  11. beetlejuice

    frabor New Member

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    Gor my vp new on 2006. Looking at mine, the list is partially correct

    That is not the only difference. The LX adds:

    All value package features, plus:
    6 speakers instead of only 2 (yes, but the wiring is there to add 4 more)
    Slightly wider tires (205 vs 195) (and I belive it goes from 15 to 16)
    Electronic remote trunk release (The Vp has remote trunk on the keyfob)
    Manual driver seat height adjustment (The VP has heigth adjustment)

    Worst of the VP:
    Only two inside lights, headliner and glove
    (no lights or harness on doors and vanity mirrors)
    No electric mirrors
    No trunk liner
    Single zone AC
     
    frabor, Sep 17, 2024
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