Nearly impossible to turn key in ignition

[2000OdysseyLX]

This isn't the first time, or the 24th time either, that this has happened...

Our 2000 Honda Odyssey frequently "locks out" the ignition key, so that it is impossible to turn.

The dealer, whose service department I give absolute top marks to, always says "jiggle the wheel" or "turn the wheel one way, then the other." We have never needed outside help to get the car started, but I'm sick and tired of it starting only when it wants to.

Today, my wife went out to run some errands and couldn't turn the key. I tried and tried and I couldn't either. I turned the steering wheel from its center position until it locked in a sharp right orientation. No help. Jiggled the wheel what little I could with it locked, and no go. I finally gave the ignition slot a good shot of WD-40, until it was running down the steering column, and the key turned easily.

So she got home and 20 minutes later, same problem. The thing really won't turn now, and the WD40 does no good either.

At one point, the dealer had said that if the shifter is "rammed" into Park and the car turned off at virtually the same instant, that could increase the likelihood of this happening. Being a logical and disciplined and systematic person is not one of my wife's virtues, and I suspect that maybe she's contributing to this problem - I've seen her come back from things with the kids, and she does seem like she's in a hurry, acting all harried and frantic.

At any rate, I'm looking for three things here:

1. Most importantly, how do I start the van? Turning the wheel and WD40 have not helped this time.

2. Why does this happen some times and not others? Until today, we'd gone a pretty long streak without it happening.

3. Do other Honda owners have this problem?

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

3. Do other Honda owners have this problem?

No. This problem is unique to your situation. Something in the column and lock mechanism has failed, or is failing, and you need to get it fixed.

The question is, is it failing simply because it was that part's time to break? Or is it being encouraged to break because of operator error/bad habits?

 

[Tegger]

This isn't the first time, or the 24th time either, that this has happened...

Our 2000 Honda Odyssey frequently "locks out" the ignition key, so that it is impossible to turn.

Try a brand-new key first.

Do you have an immobilizer?

 

[2000OdysseyLX]

Try a brand-new key first.

Do you have an immobilizer?

Haven't tried a brand new key, but have tried all three keys that we have. The third one we typically only give to the service people, and it's "like new." Same unsatisfying result for all keys.

I don't know what an immobilizer is, so I doubt we have one. Certainly no non-Honda or aftermarket equipment in it.

 

[Dick (2)]

This isn't the first time, or the 24th time either, that this has happened...

Our 2000 Honda Odyssey frequently "locks out" the ignition key, so that it is impossible to turn.

The dealer, whose service department I give absolute top marks to, always says "jiggle the wheel" or "turn the wheel one way, then the other." We have never needed outside help to get the car started, but I'm sick and tired of it starting only when it wants to.

Our 2003 Accord almost always "locks up" the ignition. The correct procedure is to gently unload the tension on the wheel and hold it there while you turn the key. You don't giggle it or turn the wheel back and forth. You only have to move it about an inch or so to take the tension off the switch, but you have to hold it there. We have had several vehicles with this problem. The solution is always the same. Of course this assumes there isn't something physically wrong with your Odyssey.

 

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

I don't know what an immobilizer is, so I doubt we have one.

You don't read the owner's manuals to your shiny new $25,000 toys?

You have the immobilizer. Read the fine manual.

 

[2000OdysseyLX]

You don't read the owner's manuals to your shiny new $25,000 toys?

You have the immobilizer. Read the fine manual.

Spent too much time in the van in the cold garage today to want to go out for the manual, but I found it online.

Nope, it's not the immobilizer causing this problem. From what I read, the immobilizer allows the key to turn, but then various other things kick in to prevent the vehicle from starting.

My problem is more elementary: I just cannot turn the key.

 

[Gordon McGrew]

Spent too much time in the van in the cold garage today to want to go out for the manual, but I found it online.

Nope, it's not the immobilizer causing this problem. From what I read, the immobilizer allows the key to turn, but then various other things kick in to prevent the vehicle from starting.

My problem is more elementary: I just cannot turn the key.

I sympathize with you. Our '98 Ody does the same thing. The "solution" is to not push the key into the lock when you turn it. Try almost pulling it out of the cylinder as you fiddle with it. once you develop a feel for it, you will hardly notice it. It is not normal but it is serviceable. I want to get the cylinder replaced anyway because I don't trust it.

 

[Randolph]

2000OdysseyLX wrote:

Our 2000 Honda Odyssey frequently "locks out" the ignition key, so that it is impossible to turn.

The dealer, whose service department I give absolute top marks to, always says "jiggle the wheel" or "turn the wheel one way, then the other." We have never needed outside help to get the car started, but I'm sick and tired of it starting only when it wants to.

If the steering wheel lock is engaged, and the steering wheel is biased one way or the other, the key would get stuck, common problem on all cars with steering wheel locks (i.e. pretty much any car except Saab 9-3 these days), and this is what your mechanic is assuming the problem is.

Today, my wife went out to run some errands and couldn't turn the key. I tried and tried and I couldn't either. I turned the steering wheel from its center position until it locked in a sharp right orientation. No help. Jiggled the wheel what little I could with it locked, and no go. I finally gave the ignition slot a good shot of WD-40, until it was running down the steering column, and the key turned easily.

So you are saying that the key was stuck even when the steering wheel lock was NOT engaged. Explain this to your mechanic next time you talk to him, it might prompt him look for a real problem rather than assuming user error. My guess would be that the lock cylinder is getting worn. Is your key on a heavy key chain with a bunch of other keys, flashlights, bottle openers, fax machines, tire irons etc.?

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[2000OdysseyLX]

This isn't the first time, or the 24th time either, that this has happened...

Our 2000 Honda Odyssey frequently "locks out" the ignition key, so that it is impossible to turn.

The dealer, whose service department I give absolute top marks to, always says "jiggle the wheel" or "turn the wheel one way, then the other." We have never needed outside help to get the car started, but I'm sick and tired of it starting only when it wants to.

Had the car towed to the dealer today. The tow truck driver was able to turn the key after about a minute of jiggling the wheel, but said he thought we had a stuck tumbler. The dealer is replacing the ignition cylinder - $600+ repair.

 

[Randolph]

The tow truck driver was able to
turn the key after about a minute of jiggling the wheel, but said he thought we had a stuck tumbler. The dealer is replacing the ignition cylinder - $600+ repair.

Ouch! Was the car per chance under warranty the first time you complained about this problem?