My Fit NOT arriving

Discussion in 'Fit' started by dgk, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. dgk

    dgk Guest

    Bad news from the dealer. It's been a month since ordering and he says
    to try another color (I wanted the orange). I think that it's bait and
    switch. I don't think that they sell Fits at MSRP. I could try the
    Storm Silver Metallic which looks pretty good.

    I have to make a decision pretty quickly since I'm going to need to
    put money into my 91 Accord soon. I must change the timing belt (I'm
    now at 94,000) and it needs so much other stuff. I'd do it if the rust
    around the wheel wells wasn't so bad, but it is bad.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  2. Why?

    Do you even know what "bait and switch" is? Or are you just another
    ignoramus who's not getting what he wants in the world, and has to have
    someone to blame something horrific on?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 16, 2006
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  3. dgk

    John Horner Guest

    It seems like Honda sometimes tells dealers what they will get rather
    than dealers or customers getting to order what they want. A strange
    way to do business, but with a sold-out hit like the Fit I guess they
    can get away with it.

    John
     
    John Horner, Aug 16, 2006
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  4. dgk

    dgk Guest

    Wow, you're a pretty nasty guy. I'm glad that I don't actually have to
    deal with you in real life.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  5. dgk

    dgk Guest

    I guess that's it. The dealer is right on my bike commute home so
    I'll drop in this afternoon and see what can be done. I suspect that
    I'm going to just keep my 91 running another year or two.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  6. Wow, you're a pretty nasty guy. I'm glad that I don't actually have to
    deal with you in real life.[/QUOTE]

    What do you suppose your colleagues think when you say things like "I
    don't like it--therefore it must be bait and switch!"

    So just go about your life, spouting crap like that without knowing what
    you're talking about.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 16, 2006
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  7. dgk

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    Shoot for 100K on the belt. It will make it unless you race the car on
    weekends.
    Good luck on the Fit. I saw a white one up close last week and decided
    not to buy one. Too small for me. bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Aug 16, 2006
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  8. dgk

    jim beam Guest

    you need to learn how to understand what elmo's actually telling you.
    otherwise you'll be the loser in virtually every negotiation you ever
    have. read elmo's post again - what he's saying is:

    1. it's not bait & switch
    2. you're not a victim unless you want to be.

    the likely scenario, and the logical one if you bother to think about
    it, is that the dealer's having trouble sourcing what you ordered, but
    because of the delay is offering you an alternative. therefore, you now
    have two options:

    i. keep on waiting, or
    ii. settle for a different color.

    if you somehow misinterpret that as "bait & switch", it's your
    [in]ability to deal with the situation that's the problem and you're
    going to end up feeling screwed whatever the outcome.

    get real, pay attention, make a decision and stick to it. assert what
    you want and keep on asserting it until you get it. bleating about
    being a victim before anything actually happens means you already are one.
     
    jim beam, Aug 16, 2006
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  9. IIRC, VW back in the late 1950's was in the same position. Often, one
    had to wait for the car of their choice or settle for what might be
    available. I had a six week wait for my new (the only new car I ever
    bought) '61 sunroof.

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Aug 16, 2006
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  10. dgk

    dgk Guest

    More information needed. Bait and switch literally means just drawing
    you in to shop but not having what was advertised. However, allowing a
    customer to order something knowing that it isn't going to come in is
    even worse.

    I went to another Honda dealer before using this one, and the first
    dealer came up with a price of $19,000 before tax. I said that I
    wouldn't pay over MSRP and she said that other dealers can't get the
    car but they can. I didn't really believe her but now I do. I think my
    current dealer did know that it was unlikely that I would get what I
    ordered.

    I can't prove it, and I could certainly be wrong but there really
    isn't anything to do about it but try for another color and give them
    another week or two. Then I just cancel the deal and spend some money
    fixing up the Accord.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  11. dgk

    dgk Guest

    It isn't only the mileage though, I think it's also age. But when it
    goes it messes up the valves and such which would be a bad thing
    indeed. I thought I had the belt done when I bought the car but the
    dealer doesn't have a record of that so I guess not.

    The Fit is indeed small and is not for everyone. But it is a lot of
    fun to drive which counts for a lot to me, and I don't have need for a
    big car. I do need to get a new TV soon, and it would fit the Fit
    better than my Accord.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  12. dgk

    JXStern Guest

    Dump the old horse now and rent something small for a month while
    waiting.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Aug 16, 2006
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  13. dgk

    Matt Ion Guest

    Just imagine how pissed dgk woulda been shopping for a Model T. "People can
    have the Model T in any colour--so long as it's black." - Henry Ford
     
    Matt Ion, Aug 16, 2006
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  14. dgk

    Matt Ion Guest

    Yes, but unless the dealer advertised an orange Fit, it's not bait-and-switch.

    As for your other assertion, you would have to prove that the dealer KNEW an
    orange Fit would never be available. In fact, from other tales here, he may
    have fully believed and expected he could get you one in orange... and it's
    Honda that hasn't come through. Jumping all over the dealer prematurely is just
    ignorant and immature.
    Now you're getting into conspiracy theories. Honda will sell you can through one
    dealer, but another? Why the hell should they care which dealer it goes
    through? The second dealer KNOWS he can't get a certain car in, but tries to
    sell you one anyway? Think about it for a moment... he doesn't get a dime of
    your money until your car actually arrives (unless you're REALLY stupid). Why
    would he waste his time and energy trying to get you to buy a car that he knows
    he can't provide? Especially when you (presumably) made it clear up front that
    you wanted EXACTLY what you wanted? It just doesn't make sense.
    Tell the dealer if he REALLY wants to make the sale, he can take a couple grand
    off the price and give you the silver or some other color, and then you can take
    that money and just have the thing repainted.
     
    Matt Ion, Aug 16, 2006
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  15. dgk

    dgk Guest

    Not really, I wouldn't have signed a contract and given Henry a grand
    deposit for a Metallic Orange one.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  16. dgk

    dgk Guest

    Well Elmo, perhaps it wasn't. I just saw the dealer and they said that
    they can get the Metallic Silver one within two weeks. So I wait a bit
    more. Now there is a bit of confusion on the Accord timing belt issue
    so that gets a new thread.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  17. dgk

    dgk Guest

    Good points but I don't think I can get much off the price. Too much
    demand. I asked for a cargo net and cover but we'll see. The silver
    looks pretty nice but the Orange was even better. They had a silver
    non-sport 5-speed and offered me that one but I want the sport. And
    while I love manual transmissions, I had a bad experience a few years
    back and I think those days are done.

    I was away with a large group of friends and managed to break an
    ankle. Out of thirty people there, only one girl could drive a stick,
    and she wasn't too good at it. Since my Significant Other also can't
    drive one, it would seem like a bad idea.

    Well, two weeks and the car comes or it doesn't.
     
    dgk, Aug 16, 2006
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  18. dgk

    Matt Ion Guest

    I once blew out my left knee - folded my leg right back the wrong way. Had a
    4-speed GLC at the time. To shift, I had to basically just rest my left foot on
    the clutch, then push down on my knee with my left hand while shifting with the
    right. That wasn't fun.
    Good luck...
     
    Matt Ion, Aug 17, 2006
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  19. If the rust is that bad, I don't think you are risking much to delay
    changing the belt.

    If all you need to do is pick a different color, then I would say the
    dealer is acting in good faith. If he can't seem to produce a Fit of
    any color, I would be suspicious. How long did he tell you to expect
    for delivery when you ordered a month ago?

    I think the production is low on the Fit and demand is high. Delays
    in delivery and dealer markups are common. If he is really selling
    them at MSRP, he may have a long line.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Aug 17, 2006
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  20. dgk

    Skippy Guest

    Sorry to hear. See what you can get now or hold out for the orange. The
    darker silver is good!

    If you sell the Accord and hire something, make sure it's not a Honda. That
    way you'll really appreciate the Fit when it arrives! Worth the wait.
     
    Skippy, Aug 17, 2006
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