Loose driver's seat...!!!???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Me, Feb 24, 2004.

  1. Me

    Me Guest

    I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.

    Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.

    When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
    moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as the
    seats moves back.

    It's more bothersome than anything else.

    (It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
    middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or all
    the way back.)

    I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat is
    installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for this
    car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
    inherant design flaw.

    Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?

    What should I do?

    Thanks!
     
    Me, Feb 24, 2004
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    jim Guest

    fro, experience you have to have it documented at the dealership... keep
    complaining about it as long as it in warranty... when out of warranty
    there will probably be a fix for it and you gonna have to pay.... thats
    when you complain to the manufactuer or zone manager of the manufacturer
    and when they see you complained about it since it was new they should
    rebate you for the cost of the fix.. thats what ford did for me back in
    1973 on a grand torino that had what the dealer called a design flaw...
    it turner out to be some bushings in the rear drive axles that they
    could not find to be at fault...
     
    jim, Feb 24, 2004
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  3. Me

    jim Guest

    fro, experience you have to have it documented at the dealership... keep
    complaining about it as long as it in warranty... when out of warranty
    there will probably be a fix for it and you gonna have to pay.... thats
    when you complain to the manufactuer or zone manager of the manufacturer
    and when they see you complained about it since it was new they should
    rebate you for the cost of the fix.. thats what ford did for me back in
    1973 on a grand torino that had what the dealer called a design flaw...
    it turner out to be some bushings in the rear drive axles that they
    could not find to be at fault...
     
    jim, Feb 24, 2004
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    harrison Guest

    I have an 2003 EX 4 cyl/doors with power seats. There is no play at all no
    matter where I position the seat.

    On the other hand, I had a Volvo 850 which had a similar rocking for the
    entire 10 years I had the car. Kept hearing "They all do that".

    Keep bugging the dealer, might want to say its a safety issue as it
    disconcerts you when the seat moves. That approach did not work for me with
    the Volvo, unfortunately.

    Dave
     
    harrison, Feb 24, 2004
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  5. Me

    harrison Guest

    I have an 2003 EX 4 cyl/doors with power seats. There is no play at all no
    matter where I position the seat.

    On the other hand, I had a Volvo 850 which had a similar rocking for the
    entire 10 years I had the car. Kept hearing "They all do that".

    Keep bugging the dealer, might want to say its a safety issue as it
    disconcerts you when the seat moves. That approach did not work for me with
    the Volvo, unfortunately.

    Dave
     
    harrison, Feb 24, 2004
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    Cosmin N. Guest

    My 10 year old Accord's driver seat moves the same way yours does, but
    it's barely noticeable. However, in my case I know why it's happening:
    the seat lost a ball bearing from the rails it moves on. I found it on
    the floor a while ago, right after I noticed the wobble. I'm just too
    lazy to take out the seat completely to see where it fell from... Maybe
    this summer?

    Cosmin
     
    Cosmin N., Feb 24, 2004
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  7. Me

    Cosmin N. Guest

    My 10 year old Accord's driver seat moves the same way yours does, but
    it's barely noticeable. However, in my case I know why it's happening:
    the seat lost a ball bearing from the rails it moves on. I found it on
    the floor a while ago, right after I noticed the wobble. I'm just too
    lazy to take out the seat completely to see where it fell from... Maybe
    this summer?

    Cosmin
     
    Cosmin N., Feb 24, 2004
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  8. I second that my Coupe V6/EX does the same thing.... I hardly notice it
    now... but it does do it.... and on top of that I can't seem to adjust the
    seat to a good position. My back seems to hurt after driving for a while...
     
    -- SilverSting--, Feb 24, 2004
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  9. I second that my Coupe V6/EX does the same thing.... I hardly notice it
    now... but it does do it.... and on top of that I can't seem to adjust the
    seat to a good position. My back seems to hurt after driving for a while...
     
    -- SilverSting--, Feb 24, 2004
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    John Horner Guest


    My '03 V6 Accord does this also and it drives me crazy. The dealer keeps
    saying that Honda is "working on a solution".

    Argh!

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 24, 2004
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    John Horner Guest


    My '03 V6 Accord does this also and it drives me crazy. The dealer keeps
    saying that Honda is "working on a solution".

    Argh!

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 24, 2004
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    John Horner Guest


    Was yours built in Japan or Ohio? So far all of the cars which have
    reported this problem (including mine) seem to be Ohio cars. I suspect that
    a different supplier/factory makes the seat system for the US built cars
    than for the Japan built ones.

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 24, 2004
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  13. Me

    John Horner Guest


    Was yours built in Japan or Ohio? So far all of the cars which have
    reported this problem (including mine) seem to be Ohio cars. I suspect that
    a different supplier/factory makes the seat system for the US built cars
    than for the Japan built ones.

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 24, 2004
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    Keith J Guest

    I concur with all of the above. Annoy the P1ss out of them until they fix
    it. After a few more times of non-fixing, start writing the Honda
    corporate. Also see about writing the NHTSA (National Traffic Safety...or
    whatever). Stress concern that the seat may break free in a crash. Gov't
    agencies live for that stuff PLUS that's what they are there for.... for us!

    Keith
     
    Keith J, Feb 25, 2004
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  15. Is this the power seat you're referring to?
    I have been experiencing this with the MANUAL seat in my '03 Accord DX.
    The dealer replaced the seat back mechanism, with no effect.
    He wants to change the seat pan mechanism next, it's on order.
    I checked it in a new '04 on the lot; it did the same thing.
    Then tried an '04 with power seat (sorry, didn't note trim level or
    place of manufacture), and it did NOT wobble...

    --Gene
     
    Gene S. Berkowitz, Feb 25, 2004
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  16. Is this the power seat you're referring to?
    I have been experiencing this with the MANUAL seat in my '03 Accord DX.
    The dealer replaced the seat back mechanism, with no effect.
    He wants to change the seat pan mechanism next, it's on order.
    I checked it in a new '04 on the lot; it did the same thing.
    Then tried an '04 with power seat (sorry, didn't note trim level or
    place of manufacture), and it did NOT wobble...

    --Gene
     
    Gene S. Berkowitz, Feb 25, 2004
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    TL Guest

    I too have the power seat and have noticed no play. The right hand
    seat is manual. No passenger has mentioned play, but then again, that
    seat is not occupied as frequently as the driver seat.

    I agree that it can be struggle to get dealers / manufacturers to deal
    with this kind of stuff. The odd logic seems to be that they will fix
    it if it is a problem only you have, but won't fix it if many of the
    cars have the problem.

    I would be more receptive to a dealer saying, hey, we could replace
    the seat but it is not likely to totally fix the problem since it
    seems like most of the cars do this (ie, there is a design flaw rather
    than something defective in your car). Then it is an issue for Honda
    to address; the dealer can't do much about it other than make sure
    Honda understands that they have a lot of people complaining about the
    same thing.
     
    TL, Feb 25, 2004
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    TL Guest

    I too have the power seat and have noticed no play. The right hand
    seat is manual. No passenger has mentioned play, but then again, that
    seat is not occupied as frequently as the driver seat.

    I agree that it can be struggle to get dealers / manufacturers to deal
    with this kind of stuff. The odd logic seems to be that they will fix
    it if it is a problem only you have, but won't fix it if many of the
    cars have the problem.

    I would be more receptive to a dealer saying, hey, we could replace
    the seat but it is not likely to totally fix the problem since it
    seems like most of the cars do this (ie, there is a design flaw rather
    than something defective in your car). Then it is an issue for Honda
    to address; the dealer can't do much about it other than make sure
    Honda understands that they have a lot of people complaining about the
    same thing.
     
    TL, Feb 25, 2004
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  19. I had the same problem with a car about 20 years ago. The dealer kept
    telling me it was normal but I kept bringing it in every 2 weeks to complain
    about the problem. Finally they agreed to take the seat out and inspect it.
    They found a broken bolt and replaced it. No more problem!!!!
     
    William Katovsky, Feb 25, 2004
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  20. I had the same problem with a car about 20 years ago. The dealer kept
    telling me it was normal but I kept bringing it in every 2 weeks to complain
    about the problem. Finally they agreed to take the seat out and inspect it.
    They found a broken bolt and replaced it. No more problem!!!!
     
    William Katovsky, Feb 25, 2004
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