looking for advice on Honda CRV air cinditioning fan not working

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by twofake, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. twofake

    twofake Guest

    Hi everyone,
    Could someone out ther ehelp me to locate where the problem exists
    that makes my inside cabin fan not work at all.Yes this means that
    there is also no air conditioning function.When the lower right (fan)
    knob is turned, nothing happens at all.There are no blown
    fuses.Someone suggested to check "the ballast resistor or coils or
    transistor" but they did not specify where these are found.
    Any advice would be appreciated.Thanks.
     
    twofake, Apr 11, 2007
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  2. twofake

    motsco_ Guest

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    You haven't provided any details (but it's Psychic Wednesday) so start
    by looking here:
    http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=9563&highlight=transistor

    Sign in and SEARCH, since it's been covered many times already. If it's
    not working even if you turn it all the way until you hear the 'click',
    it's probably not the transistor (but we don't know what model / year /
    market you're asking for help on).

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 11, 2007
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  3. twofake

    twofake Guest

    Sorry Curly,
    You are right. I just realised that I did not provide any details. The
    model is CRV for the Australian market. The year is 2002.
     
    twofake, Apr 12, 2007
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  4. twofake

    twofake Guest

    Hi again Curly,
    I read the article in Honda SUV called "Heater/AC fan only works on
    high speed " with interest.The difference here is that the heater knob
    does nothing in any positions (not even fully to the right).I have
    never had any water leak problems either.If water is leaking into the
    area, will it always reach the carpet?I had a look at the San Leandro
    Honda parts site and coudn't work out where the transistor is in their
    diagram.Is it the part labelled "8" in diagram on the following page?
    http://www.slhondaparts.com/browse.asp?Model=CR%2DV&Year=2002&TrimLevel=5DR+LX+4WD&TransLevel=4ATKA&Section=E&Category=B++1710%7CHEATER+BLOWER&Doors=5&Emissions=KA&PartCatalogId=14S9A0&ViewParts=true
     
    twofake, Apr 12, 2007
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  5. twofake

    motsco_ Guest

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    Put your cursor on part number 8 and you can go to the parts list, or
    right-click and 'Open in a new TAB'.

    There may not be a high speed (overide) switch on your CR-V, since it's
    a Gen II. Just drop your glove box (as if you were changing your Cabin
    Filter) and you can unplug and jumper the transistor. Fan should run
    full speed. If you have terribly high mileage (it's good to mention that
    too), it might be the fan motor instead. Sign in and SEARCH at
    www.hondasuv.com if you want to access all the threads about heater
    troubleshooting. Change your Cabin Filter if you haven't done so lately.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 12, 2007
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  6. twofake

    twofake Guest

    Thanks Curly,
    I have located the transistor. Can you tell me how I "jumper the
    transistor"?There are 4 wires that go to the transistor so when I
    unplg it, which wires do I jump across?Hey some interesting info for
    you, I took the cabin filter trays out and the filters are gone! I
    rang an auto guy who told me that for the Australian market, there are
    no filters at all.Yes they have empty trays?Tomorrow, I have arranged
    to vist a friend who has a working CRV so I can swap their transistor
    to see if that works so I'll keep you all posted.
     
    twofake, Apr 14, 2007
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  7. twofake

    motsco_ Guest

     
    motsco_, Apr 14, 2007
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  8. twofake

    twofake Guest

    OK I have returned from my friend's place and did a swap of their
    transistor and YES it worked so that means that part is faulty. I will
    make enquiries about replacements :a)new , b) from auto wreckers and
    c)I'll look into actually replacing the transistor inside the unit.
    Out of interest, can you still tell me how to "jumper the transistor"
    for future tests please?
     
    twofake, Apr 15, 2007
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  9. twofake

    motsco_ Guest

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    Since I didn't realize there were four wires and I don't own the manuals
    for a Gen II, I wouldn't be much help, sorry.

    Same topic: Did you find any evidence that there had ever been any
    entrance of water in that part of the heater? The gen 1 is notorious for
    wet carpet on the passengers side, which eventually wrecks the
    transistor also.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 15, 2007
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  10. twofake

    twofake Guest

    I did not see any evidence of water entry BUT my wife says that when
    the air blower died, it had just been raining.ALSO, the friend who let
    me test their "transistor" says she has had intermittent problems
    after rain so maybe I had better look into sealing where ever I am
    supposed to .I did read that link you sent about sealing the Gen1 CRV
    but have not looked at ours yet.I looked into replacing the actual
    transistor inside the Honda device but as yet, have not found a
    source for this part in Australia. It is a Toshiba 2SK2313 N channel
    FET.
     
    twofake, Apr 16, 2007
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  11. twofake

    twofake Guest

    I priced the whole replacement part today at the Honda dealer and it
    has gone down in price from AU$248 to AU$157 (I'm not sure if that is
    with the 10% tax added or before it is added) Australian
    dollars ...maybe due to popular demand.? The site in US
    http://www.slhondaparts.com/browse.asp?Model=CR%2DV&Year=2002&TrimLevel=5DR+LX+4WD&TransLevel=4ATKA&Section=E&Category=B++1710%7CHEATER+BLOWER&Doors=5&Emissions=KA&PartCatalogId=14S9A0&IRefNo=008&PartNoSelected=79330-S5A-942
    Has these parts for US$44.42 or US$14 which seesm a whole lot cheaper
    but the US serial number does not seem to match mine.
     
    twofake, Apr 17, 2007
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  12. twofake

    motsco_ Guest

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    For the money you save you can afford to try a few 'substitutes' and
    have an adventure trying it. I'm with you. Dremmel tool, epoxy, whatever
    it takes. Meantime it's too bad you can't find a schematic so you could
    hotwire it on FULL so at least you'll have AC without having to drive 60
    MPH. :-(

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 17, 2007
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  13. twofake

    twofake Guest

    With some help I have now worked out that inside the "blower
    transistor unit", there is a heat detecting device which ca blow if
    the fan does not cool it enough.Once this is blown, the unit stops
    completely. I have tested the suspect part and have found them (pack
    of 5 for under AU$20 including postage).Once I have the part
    installed,I'll repost.The acual transistor is still functioning.
     
    twofake, Apr 20, 2007
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  14. twofake

    motsco_ Guest

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    So it's just like the thermal fuse they put in video projectors and some
    light fixtures? That should be easy for you to jumper it out while you
    wait for the proper part to arrive.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Apr 20, 2007
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  15. twofake

    twofake Guest

    I decided that placing a jumper was not a good idea in case there was
    an overheating problem.I did manage to locate a replacement thermal
    fuse (had to drive to the other side of town and back) of the same
    rating and size and have just resoldered the unit and reinstalled
    it.All worknig fine now.Just makes me wonder why the thing would have
    overheated in the first place???
    Anyway, now all the readers know what to do.
     
    twofake, Apr 21, 2007
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