K & A Air Filters

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Armand, Mar 11, 2006.

  1. Armand

    Armand Guest

    Hi all.

    I hear good and bad things about these re-usable air filters. Some say you
    get better acceleration with them, some say you can ruin your pistons and
    rings with long term use. Any facts or opinions you can share is appreciated.
     
    Armand, Mar 11, 2006
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  2. Some K&N air filters are known to cause problems with MAF sensors on
    Toyotas. I don't know if Hondas would be similarly affected, but I would
    avoid them anyway. Stick with OEM filters.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Mar 11, 2006
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  3. Armand

    Ray Guest

    so far 20,ooo miles and no problems

    tiny increase in power

    overall i think a good deal
     
    Ray, Mar 12, 2006
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  4. Stick with a stock air filter and make sure it's clean. High flow
    filters only improve at the very highest rpm ranges. Your not racing
    on a track so don't bother...
     
    stratford_boy, Mar 12, 2006
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  5. Armand

    Jason Guest

    Is your vehicle under warranty--if so--wait for the warranty to
    run out (come to an end) before installing the K & N filter. I have
    seen several posts indicating that some Honda dealers look for reasons
    to void warranties and force people to pay for repairs. If they found
    a K & N filter on a Honda that had a bad head gasket--they may try to
    make you pay for the repair even if your car is under warranty.
     
    Jason, Mar 12, 2006
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  6. Armand

    jim beam Guest

    test reports i've seen

    http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

    show re-usable filters like k&n at 96.8% efficiency. the modern
    efficiency standard required for decent engine life is supposed to be
    well above 99.0%. it may not sound like a lot of difference, but it
    makes a huge difference to abrasive ingestion and therefore the life of
    the engine's friction and sealing surfaces. i wouldn't use one - i'd
    just change my oem filter more frequently to ensure maximum through-flow.
     
    jim beam, Mar 12, 2006
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  7. And an OEM filter doesn't cost much anyway. I paid $20 for an OEM filter
    for my '93 Accord a couple years ago.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Mar 12, 2006
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  8. Armand

    tww Guest

    I tried one in my 01 Prelude for a short while and performance suffered ..
    engine tended to stumble. Went back to the stock filter and the problem went
    away.
     
    tww, Mar 13, 2006
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  9. Armand

    Cesar Guest

    Before you bring it in for service and/or repairs, just swap back the OEM
    filters. Simple. Am I missing something here?
     
    Cesar, Mar 13, 2006
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  10. Armand

    Jason Guest

    Good point. That would usually work. However, some people have wives or
    older children that may drive the family car or cars. If the car broke
    down and they had it towed to dealer--the K & N filter would be on the
    car. Of course, if you are the only person that drives the car--that type
    of situation would never happen. I plan to use the stock Honda air filter
    until the warranty expires. It works very well. I have seen some posts
    indicating that K & N filters do cause problems in at least some vehicles.

    Jason
     
    Jason, Mar 15, 2006
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  11. There is credible evidence that K & N and similar air filters let more
    dirt in than a stock paper filter. If you are doing this to save
    money, there is no reason to replace the filter during the warranty
    period anyway (unless you have an extended warranty.) Even after that
    you have to ask how much you are going to save in air filters over the
    life of the car. Is it worth the risk? Also, factor in that you have
    to clean and re-oil the filter every how many miles. Is the potential
    savings worth the hassle? And if you get lax on the cleaning, how
    much worse will it be for your engine.

    If you are going for increased performance through increased air flow,
    you have to decide how much that is worth. You would at least want to
    know how much gain you are really getting. Let us know the dyno
    results.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Mar 15, 2006
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