Interesting 2011 auto quality survey

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Cameo, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. Cameo

    Cameo Guest

    J. D. Power surveyed the quality of 2011 cars and found that new tech
    features take toll on quality. One bright exception: Honda. I just
    wonder how they could tell so early in a model year how that quality
    will turn out in the long run. In any case, interesting reading:

    <http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mobile/?type=story&id=2015410074&>
     
    Cameo, Jun 25, 2011
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    jim beam Guest

    the only thing even vaguely "interesting" about any j.d. power "survey"
    is their methodology. years ago, i used to work for a company that did
    various product surveys. i'm telling you how it used to work because i
    have no reason that jdp's methodology is any different.

    1. the noobs would survey a sample of users and tabulate the results.

    2. middle management would review and, um, "adjust" the numbers based on
    what our competition's numbers said, and of course, their "gut".

    3. the corner office would review these "draft" numbers over lunch with
    the highest paying client du jour and return with the "finals" which
    then went to print.

    being the young and naive stage 1 guy at that time, i asked why we
    didn't save the time and money with the stage 1 survey and just go
    straight to stage 2 or even 3. answer: "so that we're seen to be doing
    real survey work".

    so, there you have it. jdp does real survey work. but i'll bet you a
    week old donut hole that those survey numbers don't end up as the
    published numbers without "additional input" from the people whose
    products are being surveyed and whose ads are making the publication
    profitable.
     
    jim beam, Jun 26, 2011
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  3. Cameo

    Cameo Guest

    Hm, sounds pretty cynical. But believable.
    Is there any survey we can believe in?
     
    Cameo, Jun 26, 2011
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    jim beam Guest

    the process i outlined is direct personal experience. it may sound
    cynical, but it's true.

    depends what's at stake. if it's auto-generated, from a near 100%
    sample rate and close to real-time, sure. if it's a small percentage of
    potential population, not real time, has massive general implication,
    and results get "reviewed" my management sensitive to the reaction of
    recipients, then pretty much "no".
     
    jim beam, Jun 26, 2011
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    AS Guest

    Vladimir Uljanov, better known as Lenin, has said in his time: "There are 3
    kinds of lie: an ordinary lie, a big lie and statistics." :)
     
    AS, Jun 26, 2011
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    Cameo Guest

    I doubt that quote is from Lenin because something eerily similar
    used to be attributed to Disraeli ("There are three kinds of lies: lies,
    damned lies, and statistics." )
     
    Cameo, Jun 26, 2011
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