How Hard is DIY Valve Adjustment?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mjc13, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest

    Once again, this is a 1995 Civic EX 1.6L 125HP sedan. Don't have the
    serial number at hand. I've done valve lash adjustments on old Volvo
    pushrod engines, but nothing like this. It sounds like the adjustment
    mechanism is surprisingly similar, though: set screw and locknut. So,
    any tricks? Is this something best left to a seasoned mechanic? I have
    the Chilton manual.
     
    mjc13, Jun 27, 2007
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    motsco_ Guest

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    For better control / leverage, it's nice if you have a long-handle
    combination wrench, like the 'pro' series one I picked up. It's even
    nicer if you have the tool that holds the locknut and has a screwdriver
    built it. GOOGLE 'powerbuilt 648828' or similar, depending on the size
    of the '95's locknut. I have one but haven't used it yet.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Jun 27, 2007
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  3. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest


    I was going to use a torque wrench. That isn't critical?
     
    mjc13, Jun 27, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    It *most certainly* is.

    I do my valves every year. I use no special tools, just a flat-blade
    screwdriver, a 12mm wrench and a feeler gauge set.

    The critical thing to do is to make certain the cam lobes you check are
    pointing stright up to the sky. This ensures their ramps are nowhere
    near the rocker mechanism, so cannot affect readings.

    Turn engine COUNTER-clockwise with your ratchet. If you have need to go
    the other way, do that only for fine-tuning of cam position. Never turn
    clockwise more than a degree or two.
     
    Tegger, Jun 28, 2007
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  5. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest

    I assume you mean a torque wrench with 12mm socket. ;-) I was hoping
    to turn the engine by rolling the car in gear. Any problem with that
    approach? I don't remember if the manual gives the bolt size - is 12mm
    applicable to my '95 EX?
     
    mjc13, Jun 28, 2007
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    motsco_ Guest

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    Yes, you'll run out of room on your driveway before you get your valves
    all adjusted :)

    Once you slip out the spark plugs the engine turns over easily with the
    Power Steering nut. (depending on the model)

    Engine should be STONE COLD too, at least on the GEn 1 CR-V it's true.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Jun 28, 2007
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    Eric Guest

    There is no need for a torque wrench. In addition, you may want to take a
    look at one of my prior posts where I discuss the general technique for
    adjusting valves. http://tinyurl.com/2bf5qf

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 29, 2007
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  8. mjc13

    mjc13 Guest


    There may not be a need for a torque wrench if you either have done
    the job before or instinctively know what 14 lb/ft feels like, but I'd
    prefer not to risk those aluminum rocker arms.
     
    mjc13, Jun 29, 2007
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    jim beam Guest



    i don't think you should attempt this job at this time. it requires
    experience and some degree of mechanical aptitude. judging by your
    other posts and your reaction to responses, you don't appear to have
    either. in fact, your motivation appears to be more recreational than
    anything else.

    if you're serious about learning, sign up for evening classes. otherwise
    leave alone. a fouled up valve adjustment can cost you a lot of money.
     
    jim beam, Jun 29, 2007
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    mjc13 Guest


    I guess that establishes you as a troll. Before I filter you, I'll
    again note that I've done valve adjustments - on steel rocker
    assemblies, 30 years ago. Caution isn't the same as ineptitude, and
    sarcasm isn't the same as wisdom.
     
    mjc13, Jun 29, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    You really, really, need a good shop manual. You clearly have no idea
    what's involved.
    www.helminc.com

    Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now get down and peek
    inside the wheel well at the splash shield inboard of the wheel. See the
    big round rubber plug? Pop that out and you can use a 19mm socket on a long
    extension to turn the engine counterclockwise.

    The 12mm wrench is for loosening and tightening the locknuts that hold the
    valve adjustment. The screwdriver is for the threaded adjusters.

    The torque wrench (and 12mm socket) is for making sure the locknuts are
    snugged up properly and will not vibrate loose on you.
     
    Tegger, Jun 29, 2007
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  12. mjc13

    Tegger Guest


    Jim is absolutely right, and he's no troll.

    But you are neither cautious nor inept; you are just woefully uninformed.

    If you do not know the proper procedure for turning the engine over, and do
    not know what tools are required to do the job, then you are risking severe
    engine damage.

    I suggest getting the Helm manual (NOT a Chilton or Haynes), and reading
    some basic auto maintenance texts.
    ( wwww.helminc.com or eBay)

    Actually, I'm scheduled to perform my annual valve check on my DOHC Integra
    this weekend. Maybe I'll take some pics.
     
    Tegger, Jun 29, 2007
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    Elle Guest

    The factory service manual is free online for this Honda.
    See http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

    Based on what you say below, I think you can do this. Just
    ask questions here when something seems amiss. Do not
    assume.
     
    Elle, Jun 29, 2007
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    mjc13 Guest

    Not true. You misunderstood me.

    Ok, that's how I turn the crankshaft. I was hoping there was another
    way to accomplish that, but I can do the above - which the Chilton
    manual doesn't mention, at least in this context. I'm not a big fan of
    using crank pulley bolts to turn engines, that's all.
    I understand that perfectly well - the old Volvo motors had a very
    similar design at the rocker arms. I also know how to use the feeler guage!

    And I understand that as well. I was trying to confirm that 12mm was
    the correct size for this particular engine. Hopefully it is, or if it
    isn't I'll have the correct size.

    No offense, but the Volvo and Camry techs seem to be nicer. ;-)
     
    mjc13, Jun 30, 2007
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    mjc13 Guest


    I did look at that manual - thanks again for the link. As for asking
    questions... not in this newsgroup, I think. You're the only one who
    seems to be reading what I'm actually writing.
     
    mjc13, Jun 30, 2007
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