Honda Settles Class-Action Suit Over Brakes

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  1. Tony Harding

    Tony Harding Guest

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    April 6, 2010, 7:30 am
    Honda Settles Class-Action Suit Over Brakes
    By CHRISTOPHER JENSEN
    2008 Honda Accord EX-L V-6 sedan.

    Honda has agreed to settle a class-action suit that claims the rear
    brakes in 750,000 late model Accords and Acura TSXs are wearing out more
    than twice as fast as they should.

    The suit was filed in September, claiming that unreasonable wear was due
    to a defective design that caused “excessive force to be applied to the
    vehicle’s rear wheels.”

    It covers 2008–9 Accords and 2009 Acura TSXs as well as a small number
    of 2010 models. The suit says the rear pads wear out in 15,000-20,000
    miles when they should last at about 70,000 miles, that Honda has
    refused to provide repairs under the new-car warranty and failed to warn
    new buyers that the rear brakes would require such frequent repairs.

    The suit attributes the problem to a new braking system that included
    four-wheel discs and an electronic brake distribution system that became
    standard on the 2008 Accord and 2009 TSX.

    On its Web site, Honda described electronic brake distribution as “a
    more exacting method of ensuring that proportionate braking forces are
    applied to the brakes. In order to avoid needless ABS cycling during a
    nonemergency stop, E.B.D. uses the ABS sensors to detect impending
    rear-wheel lockup. Then it signals an additional ABS solenoid to reduce
    braking force to the rear and add more to the front.”

    Honda has come up with a new brake pad and can make adjustments to the
    braking system that will “greatly increase the lifespan of those rear
    brake pads,” said Eric Gibbs of San Francisco, one of the lawyers who
    filed the case.

    Chris Martin, a Honda spokesman, said the automaker did not comment on
    pending litigation.

    The proposed settlement says that Honda denies there is a defect or that
    it has done anything wrong. The settlement also says neither Honda nor
    the plaintiffs’ lawyers have identified a safety problem.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has about 350 owner
    complaints about the issue on its Web site.

    Jerry Ongaro of Naperville, Ill., filed his complaint with the Center
    for Auto Safety. Mr. Ongaro said he was charged $256 for new rear brakes
    on his 2008 Accord after only 26,000 miles. “Most of the miles I put on
    this particular car have been expressway. No stop and go. Strictly zoom,
    zoom. Back and forth. I was dumbfounded,” he said in an interview.

    “I just got very angry at the seeming indifference Honda had with this,”
    he said. “I was really frustrated, this is my eighth Honda. They have
    been great cars.”

    Judge Margaret M. Morrow of the United States District Court for the
    Central District of California is scheduled in May to consider whether
    the settlement is fair to owners and deserves preliminary approval. If
    she grants preliminary approval, interested parties have the opportunity
    to comment. She would consider final approval later this year.

    Here’s what is proposed:

    • Owners who had the pads replaced and rotors resurfaced before approval
    of the settlement would be reimbursed for one half of the cost, or a
    maximum of $125, “whichever is less.” That would be for repairs in which
    the original worn pads were replaced with pads of the same type. Owners
    can file claims for multiple repairs, and the work does not need to have
    been done at a Honda dealership.

    Owners who complained on the N.H.T.S.A. Web site typically said they
    paid from $100 to $300 for the repair, which sometimes included the
    brake rotors being smoothed out.

    • Owners will also be given a one-time payment of up to $150 to have the
    new, redesigned brake pads installed.

    Mr. Gibbs said the $150 should pay for most repairs, but some consumers
    might have to pay an extra $10 or $20. He said that seemed like the best
    deal possible because there would be no guarantee that consumers would
    get more after a trial.

    “Cases like this, when you are alleging that a wear part is defective,
    are extraordinarily difficult to prove and to win,” Mr. Gibbs said.

    The settlement proposes that $2 million for fees and expenses be shared
    by Mr. Gibbs and the other lawyers in the case, including those from
    Berk Law of Washington.

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    Tony Harding, Apr 7, 2010
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    C. E. White Guest

    Another ridiculous lawsuit. It seems the brakes were working as
    designed. They are completely safe. They wear out. The rear brakes
    wear faster than some past Honda for some drivers becasue Honda
    included some sophiticated electronics to adjust the brake balance
    more towards the rear in some conditions. Brake wear is not covered by
    the warranty. I never recall seeing any Honda/Acura ads or literature
    where Honda claimed the rear brakes should last 70,000 miles. So the
    suit seems to be saying - "We bought a Honda becasue they are soooo
    good, but they weren't as good as we hoped they were, so give us some
    money." BS

    These idiots bought a car and then expect that the brakes will last
    forever. They should be forced to drive a 1969 Plymouth Fury with drum
    brakes...

    I wonder how long after Honda "fixes" the rear brakes before other
    idiots will sue Honda becasue the rear brakes no longer work as well
    as before the "fix" or that the front brakes now wear out faster after
    the "fix."

    My son wore out his Mustang rear brakes after only 25,000 miles...can
    I sue Ford? Do I have to tell them he screwed up the parking brake?

    Ed
     
    C. E. White, Apr 8, 2010
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    gmccx Guest

    Indeed, but the important and most relevant part:

    "The settlement proposes that $2 million for fees and expenses be shared
    by Mr. Gibbs and the other lawyers in the case"
     
    gmccx, Apr 11, 2010
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