Honda Service Manuals

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by oz.ortiz, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. oz.ortiz

    oz.ortiz Guest

    I am the owner of a 1992 Honda Civic VTi.

    Does anyone know if any service manuals in English cover this car? As
    far as I have been able to tell the car wasn't sold in the UK that
    year, so that's not an option. And the Haynes and Chiltons manuals are
    oriented for the North American market, so they don't cover the 1595cc
    VTEC.

    Or, alternately, what combinaion of manuals could I use (in English!)
    to service my car?

    Thanks folks.
     
    oz.ortiz, Sep 1, 2006
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  2. oz.ortiz

    Elle Guest

    I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
    site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
    resources listed
    at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .

    I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
    modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
    Factory Service Manual.
     
    Elle, Sep 1, 2006
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  3. oz.ortiz

    oz.ortiz Guest

    I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't cover all the
    mechanicals on my car. ;)
     
    oz.ortiz, Sep 1, 2006
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  4. oz.ortiz

    Elle Guest

    Pardon my miscommunication. There are a few regulars here
    who regularly opine that Chilton's is junk. I think that's
    absurd.

    I do see the VTEC engine mentioned in a few places in my
    1984-1995 Civic/CRX/del Sol manual.

    If you care to mention what areas in particular you found
    the Chilton's lacking, that might shed more light on whether
    you absolutely have to spend the bucks for a Helms manual or
    not.

    Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
    replacement can now be done with the arm in place.
     
    Elle, Sep 1, 2006
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  5. oz.ortiz

    jim beam Guest

    Elle wrote:
    it's omitted because it's not a factory procedure. factory procedure is
    to replace the arm to eliminate risk of it fatiguing as its mileage
    increases. it can easily survive the life of one main bushing, but two
    is a risk.

    that said, i personally always replace the main bushings on any used
    honda i buy, but i have two things in my favor:

    1. i live in rust-free california.
    2. i know what i'm looking at in terms of cracking and stress risers.

    a manufacturer can't recommend a procedure to all that only safely
    applies to a small subset of users.
     
    jim beam, Sep 1, 2006
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  6. oz.ortiz

    Elle Guest

    Doh.

    But fact is, dealerships will replace the trailing arm
    bushing and not the trailing arm.
    In the past I have asked you to cite statements like this,
    and you get all upset.

    So, no, without a citation, this is just bullshit from a
    Usenet poster. And if you get all upset, it's more bullshit.
     
    Elle, Sep 1, 2006
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  7. oz.ortiz

    jim beam Guest

    right now, only one of us appears to be using the language of negative
    emotion, and it ain't me.

    fact: i have seen stamped steel suspension components like this fatigue
    and break.
    fact: corrosion reduces the cross section of material.
    fact: corrosion causes pitting - which acts as a stress riser.

    reduced cross section /and/ stress riser? that sure is something to get
    upset about, but not in the way you're doing. and quitcher bleating
    about citations - original source does not require it.
     
    jim beam, Sep 1, 2006
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  8. oz.ortiz

    Elle Guest

    Beamer: No citation, no sell. Your calling that emotion
    shows what a weak-ego'd bullshit artist you try to be.
     
    Elle, Sep 1, 2006
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  9. oz.ortiz

    jim beam Guest

    elle, what are you trying to get out of this exchange? you're evidently
    not speaking from knowledge or experience here, so why dig yourself even
    deeper? get yourself to a junk yard and see where rusty springs have
    fatigued and failed - [other] suspension member failure is exactly the
    same thing, and you may even see one if you look long enough. i'm kinda
    shocked as to why this would be such a conceptual hurdle for an engineer.
     
    jim beam, Sep 1, 2006
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