Honda recall of odyssey and element for brake pedal mushiness

Discussion in 'Element' started by JRStern, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. JRStern

    JRStern Guest

    so wassup with this?

    sounds like the master cylinders from the 1980s/1990s.

    do these lines use different brake components than the Accords or
    Civics of the same year, or the odyssey/elements of other years? just
    wondering.

    J.


    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/honda-shares-hit-by-odyssey-element-recall-2010-03-17

    Honda shares hit by Odyssey, Element recall
    By MarketWatch

    TOKYO (MarketWatch) -- Shares of Honda Motor Co. lagged the market
    Wednesday in Tokyo amid pressure by the Japanese auto giant's plans
    for a vehicle recall.

    On Tuesday, the car maker said it will recall about 344,000 Odyssey
    minivans and 68,000 Element sports utility vehicles from the 2007-2008
    model years in the U.S. following customer complaints of brake pedals
    problems.

    "Honda has received customer complaints of brake pedals that feel
    'soft' or that gradually exhibit a pedal height that gets lower
    (closer to the floor) before the vehicle stops,' the car maker said in
    a statement. "In affected vehicles, this condition tends to very
    slowly increase over time." See Honda statement on recall.

    Honda (NYSE:HMC) (TSE:JP:7267) said notifications to customers will
    start in April.

    Shares of Honda managed to close up 0.2% after trading down earlier in
    the day, though the performance was well behind the 1.2% rise in the
    benchmark Nikkei 225 Average.

    The action follows the expansion of a separate recall involving close
    to 1 million Honda vehicles due to concerns about their air bags.
     
    JRStern, Mar 17, 2010
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  2. JRStern

    jim beam Guest

    sounds like any other progressive master cylinder failure that's ever
    existed on any hydraulic brake ever since they were invented. the only
    reason to make this a "recall" [apparently voluntary] is because this
    may be happening sooner than normal. but the failure mode itself is
    absolutely standard and will happen to any master cylinder eventually.
     
    jim beam, Mar 17, 2010
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  3. JRStern

    ACAR Guest

    I found this at Temple of VTEC.


    Statement by American Honda Motor Co., Inc., Regarding VSA Modulator
    Recall
    Date: March 16, 2010 15:58
    Submitted by: Jeff
    Source: Honda Press Release
    Credibility Rating: Not Specified


    03/16/2010 - TORRANCE, Calif. -

    Honda will recall approximately 344,000 Odyssey and 68,000 Element
    vehicles from the 2007-2008 model years in the U.S. to modify the
    Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) modulator. Honda has received
    customer complaints of brake pedals that feel "soft" or that gradually
    exhibit a pedal height that gets lower (closer to the floor) before
    the vehicle stops. In affected vehicles, this condition tends to very
    slowly increase over time.

    Some VSA modulators were assembled in a manner that could allow air
    intrusion, making it possible for air to enter the modulator during
    the VSA self-check mode. While only a miniscule amount of air can
    enter the system during each check, over a period of months or years,
    the air will accumulate and can result in the "soft brake pedal" or
    "low brake pedal" condition symptoms associated with this issue.
    Although not all vehicles being recalled are affected by this issue,
    we are recalling all possible units to assure all customers that their
    vehicles will perform correctly.

    Honda is announcing this recall to encourage all owners of these
    vehicles to take their vehicle to an authorized dealer as soon as they
    receive notification from Honda that their vehicle is affected.
    Notification to customers will start at the end of April.

    Once owners of these vehicles receive written notification of this
    recall from Honda, they should contact their authorized Honda dealer
    to schedule an appointment for repair. When Honda identifies concerns
    of this nature, nothing is more important to the company than
    fulfilling our obligation and responsibility to alert our customers.
    To this end in addition to contacting customers by mail, after April
    19, 2010, owners of these vehicles will be able to determine if their
    vehicle requires repair by going on-line or calling. Honda owners can
    go to www.recalls.honda.com or call (800) 999-1009, and select option
    4.
     
    ACAR, Mar 19, 2010
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  4. JRStern

    M.A. Stewart Guest


    A similar recall was announced in Canada. A representative from
    Honda Canada said the fix was "to remove air", presumably by
    bleeding, and to "seal the VSA".

    How is "seal the VSA" to be done?
     
    M.A. Stewart, Mar 19, 2010
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