Honda Oil Filter Vs. Fram Oil Filter?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Guest, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda filter
    has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
    this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?

    Guest, Jun 18, 2006
  2. Guest

    Alan Guest

    I don't know of any filter that leaks as long as the O ring is wiped
    with clean oil before installing.
    Alan, Jun 18, 2006
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    Paul Guest

    : I know that the Honda oil filter is made by Fram; however, the Honda
    : has a tapered O ring as opposed to the Fram filter which does not. Does
    : this make a difference? Has anyone used the Fram oil filters? Any leaks?
    : Thanks
    I've been using Fram oil filters on several cars (including three Hondas)
    for years and have never had a problem with any of them.

    Paul, Jun 18, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    the o-ring makes no difference to leakage, but it's cheaper, just like
    everything else about the fram filter. google for a number of web sites
    and you'll where people have dissected multiple brands of filters, and
    fram always comes out worst.

    one last thing about the fram o-ring: the flat type they use can
    sometimes stick to the block when the filter is removed. if this is not
    noticed, "double-ringing" can occur, and if you're lucky, oil sprays all
    over the engine bay when you go to start. it's a real pita to clean up
    and you need to change your accessory belts. if you're not so lucky,
    this happens on the freeway with /much/ more serious [and expensive]
    jim beam, Jun 18, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    The photos I have seen seem to show that the Honda and Fram filters are
    constructed differently in several ways. Just because Fram makes them
    for Honda does not mean they are the same thing.

    John Horner, Jun 18, 2006
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    bearman Guest

    What's the price difference between a Fram filter and a Honda filter? The
    extra bucks you spend for a genuine Honda filter (whoever makes it) seems a
    small price to pay every 5,000 miles or so.
    bearman, Jun 18, 2006
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    Andy & Carol Guest

    Talking about Honda filters, When I went to the Honda dealer,
    to get my oil filters, he said that there is a new type filter, smaller,
    for my 98 4cylinder Accord. It does not seal correctly.
    The out side of the filter bottoms out on the filter casting area.
    The gasket does not compress enought! The parts man said that I have the
    filter..anyone else have this problem? I have bee using Puralator,
    and they all fit ok.
    Andy & Carol, Jun 19, 2006
  8. I have installed two or three of the new type on my '98 Ody and '94
    GSR. They are a little hard to start threading but once started, they
    seem to seat fine. I am more concerned about the possible reduction
    in filter capacity.
    Gordon McGrew, Jun 19, 2006
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    TeGGeR® Guest

    What's the part number? About 90% of Hondas use 15400-PLM-A02.

    I still have one of the old-style filters here. The gasket on the old one
    does indeed stick out quite a ways more than on the new one. However, if
    the mounting surface is FLAT, it should not matter.

    Do you have a groove worn into your filter mounting surface?
    TeGGeR®, Jun 20, 2006
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    Andy & Carol Guest

    Mounting surface is flat but the outer case of the filter
    bottomes out, digs in to the casting, and then you cannot
    compress the gasket anymore, hand tight. With the old larger,filter,
    the outside of the filter goes beyond the casting, and then the
    gasket seals properly. I just doen't use the new Honda filter.
    All other brands are the same size as the old filter.
    Andy & Carol, Jun 20, 2006
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    TeGGeR® Guest

    That's odd. I use the same filter, and my mounting surface is similarly
    under the crimped edge of the can, and I have no problem with contact.

    Are you *sure* you're tightening to no more than 8-10 lbs?

    Honda does have other filters (I think two others). One is the same as the
    A02, but longer, and other is quite different. You may want to ask your
    dealer for each and compare.
    TeGGeR®, Jun 20, 2006
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    Andy & Carol Guest

    Yes, the bottom of the filter, is gouged and the paint is
    ground off. The new filter was almost leaking. I knew
    something was wrong, because when tighting the new
    filter, it would just stop, not slow down as when you are
    compressing the gasket.
    Andy & Carol, Jun 20, 2006
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    ACAR Guest

    Recently I placed an order for some routine maintenance parts and
    decided to order a Denso oil filter for my 2004 Accord. The Denso
    filter is still the same as the old Honda oil filter and not like the
    new Honda tea-cup filters. No doubt the new Honda tea-cups are easier
    to hand torque but I'm sticking with filters that contain more media
    (e.g., Purolator PurOne).
    ACAR, Jun 21, 2006
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