Honda OEM Parts Catalogs for Sale

Discussion in 'Honda Parts For Sale / Trade' started by Joe, May 9, 2010.

  1. Joe

    Joe Guest

    Pat:

    Thank you. At least someone makes sense here! One account, 9 years
    with the same ID. Never said I was anyone else.

    Tegger:

    Tsk, tsk on you. At least be correct and have your facts straight if
    you're going to be cynical. I clearly stated what my ID was and as Pat
    easily found out, I have spotless feedback on Ebay. Your manipulation
    of the facts is nothing more than that.

    Why would I post listing to Ebay auctions in this newsgroup? Since not
    all of them pertain to Honda and Acura products, it's not relevant to
    do so. I wouldn't want to see Honda listings in a Pontiac forum, for
    example. As I clearly stated, if someone is interested, they can
    contact me. That keeps the posts relevant to Honda and Acura vehicles,
    which is what this is about, right?

    If you're not, and you have nothing nice (or right for that matter) to
    say, don't say it. It's annoying and foolish. Calling someone a
    "scammer" without the facts is just ASSuming. And we all know what
    happens when you do that :).

    No comment from Dillon or Dave. Maybe they found us a HondaNet
    subscription? How are you making out on the HondaNet subscription?
    What alternatives are you providing the group?

    Here's some facts for you:

    1) The Z600 is on HondaNet (right down to the part # for the original
    tires for the car), but when I put up two fiche sets for these cars,
    they went like hot cakes for well over $150 a set. Explain that?
    Here's the newsflash, as I stated earlier: The dealer's information
    does you no good at home. This information helped them greatly. Within
    a week of having the fiche on hand, the first buyer stated to me that
    he'd found a lot of Honda NOS on Ebay that fit his Z600 because he was
    now armed with the part # to search. Piece of cake!

    2) You've clearly admitted you've never even used HondaNet, only what
    you've "seen at the dealer". Here's a newsflash #2: You didn't even
    know it was called HondaNet before I told you the name of the
    program :). C'mon champ, admit it, you've learned something here!
    That's what happens when you listen. Sit back and listen some more,
    you'll continue to learn.

    3) You (or anyone else) have yet to provide an alternative for the car
    owner for parts information. And before you say "Trade Motion" or any
    of the other sites online, those are not full OEM parts catalogs. They
    have the fast moving items and common items, not everything like the
    OEM books do.

    4) Here's another one for you. You're working on your classic GM car.
    Say it's a 1975 or older model. A muscle car. You figure you'll go to
    the dealer for parts information. Guess what? GM is only electronic on
    passenger cars (except Corvette) from 1976 and newer. The muscle cars
    are all on fiche or books, the last data capture was done in April
    1983. Some models are not on EPCs, therefore the fiche is relevant.
    Even if it is (like Honda and Acura), how is this going to help you at
    home? C'mon Tegger, answer the question!

    5) Pat clearly found me on Ebay, how come you could not? Are you so
    intent on flaming someone that you don't look at the facts? If you
    did, you'd also know that the OEM calls a fiche set a parts book. Why?
    Because the fiche is the parts book information, typically page for
    page, reduced onto microfiche. But, if you knew what you were talking
    about, you'd also know this.

    It seems that the only "creaky" thing thus far in this discussion is
    your logic. I'd tell you to have the dealer find you some in their
    parts computer, but if you're on the Eastern seaboard now, you might
    find the dealer closed.

    Now just think if you had that microfiche :)!
     
    Joe, May 14, 2010
    #21
  2. Joe

    pws Guest

    Yeah, I am not even really taking sides on anything. I like Tegger and
    he is usually very helpful here, but him calling a person with 5.0 Ebay
    detailed seller ratings in all four categories a scammer needs to be
    challenged, imo.

    I don't think that very many people understand how hard that number is
    to maintain, as many buyers leave a 4 out of 5 even when completely
    satisfied (like a movie rating) and tend to automatically leave a 1 out
    of 5 when they are not happy.

    He certainly has a right to comment on any posting that he wishes to,
    but I do wonder what has gotten under his skin about people buying and
    selling automobile books on fiche.
    Maybe a bad experience with a microfiche reader during his youth? ;-)

    Pat
     
    pws, May 15, 2010
    #22
  3. Joe

    Tegger Guest



    Ah, now I see the eBay ID: ponchojoe. I missed that the first time around,
    since all you said was, "Tegger and Dave: Ponchojoe." I did not at first
    connect that with being a disclosure of your eBay ID.

    Now. How come I see no sales (but one) of fiches through your ID on eBay?
    Lots of parts /books/, though...
     
    Tegger, May 15, 2010
    #23
  4. Joe

    Tegger Guest



    What set me off was that it appeared that he was refusing to fess up to his
    eBay ID, so I could check up on his claims. I missed his "Tegger and Dave:
    Ponchojoe" comment, which was posted just today, and not anytime between
    Sunday (when he posted originally) and today.

    If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I apologize. But "Joe" set off all my alarm
    bells. Most eBayers are very happy to post URLs to their listings, but not
    "Joe", apparently.



    I've only got 8 feedback on eBay. All of them are very positive, and all of
    them are 2-years-old or older! I don't do much eBaying, as you can tell.



    I was unaware that anybody still did anything by fiche anymore. And in any
    case, I can't find any fiches on eBay newer than about 2003, and those are
    for motorcycles.
     
    Tegger, May 15, 2010
    #24
  5. I gotta step in here.

    As an occasional eBay seller (but mostly buyer) I would never post a
    link to anything that I would have for sale Honda related or not as I
    consider such an act to that of a spammer.

    That said, Joe didn't do this and just posted some info that might be of
    interest.

    I don't know if there are any ground rules for this group but I always
    try to remain on the "safe" side.

    I really see no harm with Joe's post. I only wish that someone would
    transfer each fiche to a searchible PDF file on a CD.

    Regarding getting current Honda info, I'm not aware of all the
    possibilities but my Honda expert pays in excess of $500 per year to
    access technical info...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, May 15, 2010
    #25

  6. Now that I can agree with.

    These groups truly allow a free interchange of communication. One of the
    prices to paid though is the occasional squabble, trolls and of course
    spam. But the delete key should take care of that providing that one is
    not too thin skinned...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, May 15, 2010
    #26
  7. Joe

    Tony Harding Guest

    Tegger has a Web site.

    You could check it out.
     
    Tony Harding, May 15, 2010
    #27
  8. Joe

    Joe Guest

    There you have it :). Posting a link to Ebay items here spells SPAM
    with a capital S. As JT said, it was a low key post. I have them. If
    you're interested, just contact me. That's all.

    Ebay works (just sold a set), as do the newsgroups. I contacted
    another admin of a Honda/Acura newsgroup and he said, "go for it" with
    regard to posting. Most groups have a buy/sell forum and so long as
    it's pertaining to that group, it's not a problem. Again, no one wants
    to see GM microfiche in a Honda forum and vice versa.

    There's no need to flame and turn it nasty. I see tons of SPAM posts
    in these groups, and my post is far from it.

    That's been the point all along. I see some of the others have dropped
    out of the discussion. Maybe they've gotten the point (or gotten fiche
    readers. LOL).
     
    Joe, May 15, 2010
    #28
  9. Joe

    pws Guest

    I think I liked "Joe" better at the beginning of this thread. Just
    kidding, Joe. It's not a big deal in any case.
    2900+ here, with maybe 100 of those being purchases. Still no negatives,
    but my Ebay selling has been going down continuously.
    Not a big market for the type of things I tend to sell in this economy.
    I have to admit, I would never buy most of it myself. :)
    I haven't used a microfiche reader myself since the mid-1980's.

    Pat
     
    pws, May 15, 2010
    #29
  10. Joe

    Joe Guest

    I know you're kidding Pat. Sometimes, the microfiche is all there is.
    My parents have older appliances, for instance. That information is
    ONLY on microfiche, the parts computers don't go that far back. Most
    OEMs figure anything past a certain year electronically. Anything
    older is an archive and on fiche/in the old books.

    You can usually take the number you find and see if it's available as
    that part # or superseded to something else. That's the beauty of
    having the number in hand. A lot of guys don't want to be bothered
    looking up the "really old stuff".

    I never minded dealing with the older stuff.
     
    Joe, May 15, 2010
    #30
  11. Joe

    Tegger Guest


    $365 a year for access to Techinfo, then additional to upgrade your HDS, if
    you have one.
     
    Tegger, May 16, 2010
    #31
  12. Joe

    Tegger Guest


    It's /seriously/ in need of update.
     
    Tegger, May 16, 2010
    #32
  13. Joe

    Tegger Guest


    Visit your local public library. If it's of any decent size, they will have
    enormous amounts of older information on microfiche, usually on rolls.

    Fiches are a real pain compared to the newer computerized systems, but for
    the older stuff (like 1980s car magazines, or 19th-century newspapers),
    it's often all there is.
     
    Tegger, May 16, 2010
    #33
  14. Joe

    Joe Guest

    That's incorrect. Film on rolls is MICROFILM, not MICROFICHE. Two
    different machines (and formats).
     
    Joe, May 16, 2010
    #34
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