Honda Civic - Loud Engine and Slower Acceleration

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Rale, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. Rale

    Rale Guest

    Over the past few days, I have noticed that the engine on my '99 Honda
    Civic is much louder then before, particularly when accelerating and the car
    feels slower/sloppier, so I need to push gas pedal more to get the same
    acceleration.



    Any ideas on what to could be causing this or what to check.



    Thanks,
    Rale
     
    Rale, Sep 10, 2005
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  2. Mainly to cover the bases... how many miles/years since the last timing belt
    change? Jumped timing normally makes the engine hard to start, but it isn't
    always apparent. It also causes the acceleration to be noticably poorer and
    makes an odd hollow sound from the exhaust. My concern is that if the belt
    has jumped, you are on the ragged edge of timing belt failure with a great
    likelihood of severe engine damage. If the timing belt change interval has
    been more than the mileage or time specified in the owner's manual, it needs
    to be done now!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 11, 2005
    #2
  3. Mainly to cover the bases... how many miles/years since the last timing belt
    change? Jumped timing normally makes the engine hard to start, but it isn't
    always apparent. It also causes the acceleration to be noticably poorer and
    makes an odd hollow sound from the exhaust. My concern is that if the belt
    has jumped, you are on the ragged edge of timing belt failure with a great
    likelihood of severe engine damage. If the timing belt change interval has
    been more than the mileage or time specified in the owner's manual, it needs
    to be done now!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 11, 2005
    #3
  4. Rale

    chibitul Guest

    can you detect that without taking the timing belt cover off? if you
    check the ignition timing with a timing lamp and of course jumper the
    service check connector to siable the ECU timing adjustment? can that
    be spot on if the timing belt jumped?
    I am asking because my 97 Civic does the same and I already replaced
    spark plugs, checked the wires and the distributor, and I adjusted the
    timing spot on. I still have to check the PCV valve though.
     
    chibitul, Sep 11, 2005
    #4
  5. Rale

    chibitul Guest

    can you detect that without taking the timing belt cover off? if you
    check the ignition timing with a timing lamp and of course jumper the
    service check connector to siable the ECU timing adjustment? can that
    be spot on if the timing belt jumped?
    I am asking because my 97 Civic does the same and I already replaced
    spark plugs, checked the wires and the distributor, and I adjusted the
    timing spot on. I still have to check the PCV valve though.
     
    chibitul, Sep 11, 2005
    #5
  6. Exactly - the ignition timing will be significantly retarded if the belt
    jumps, so if you didn't have to adjust the distributor more than a bit the
    timing belt isn't your problem.

    I realize timing belts fail completely more often than they jump, but
    jumping is such a dire warning that it's good to check that first. If the
    belt has jumped, you don't want to run the engine until it's fixed.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 11, 2005
    #6
  7. Exactly - the ignition timing will be significantly retarded if the belt
    jumps, so if you didn't have to adjust the distributor more than a bit the
    timing belt isn't your problem.

    I realize timing belts fail completely more often than they jump, but
    jumping is such a dire warning that it's good to check that first. If the
    belt has jumped, you don't want to run the engine until it's fixed.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 11, 2005
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  8. Rale

    jim beam Guest

    i have a really hard time believing that a correctly tensioned belt can
    jump. but based on what i've seen with my honda, and the fact that you
    /have/ to have the timing cover mostly back on before tightening the
    tensioner [making it impossible to "see" if the belt is right], i'd say
    that there's a significant chance any belt that's been changed is going
    to be loose. and if it's loose, it's much more likely to jump.
     
    jim beam, Sep 11, 2005
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  9. Rale

    jim beam Guest

    i have a really hard time believing that a correctly tensioned belt can
    jump. but based on what i've seen with my honda, and the fact that you
    /have/ to have the timing cover mostly back on before tightening the
    tensioner [making it impossible to "see" if the belt is right], i'd say
    that there's a significant chance any belt that's been changed is going
    to be loose. and if it's loose, it's much more likely to jump.
     
    jim beam, Sep 11, 2005
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  10. Rale

    L Alpert Guest

    Manifold/vacuum leak would be my guess only because of the increased noise
    level. Timing belt (as suggested) may be a culprit, but I don't think that
    would make the engine louder. Of course, it's hard to tell without hearing
    the difference.......
     
    L Alpert, Sep 11, 2005
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  11. Rale

    L Alpert Guest

    Manifold/vacuum leak would be my guess only because of the increased noise
    level. Timing belt (as suggested) may be a culprit, but I don't think that
    would make the engine louder. Of course, it's hard to tell without hearing
    the difference.......
     
    L Alpert, Sep 11, 2005
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  12. Rale

    zagor Guest

    my expirience was on '98 civic that missiong oil can cause that

    explanation i get from dealer is that vtec isnt working (i cant reach more
    than 5000rpm , motor was lauder and performance degraded)

    check oil

    b.
     
    zagor, Sep 11, 2005
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  13. Rale

    zagor Guest

    my expirience was on '98 civic that missiong oil can cause that

    explanation i get from dealer is that vtec isnt working (i cant reach more
    than 5000rpm , motor was lauder and performance degraded)

    check oil

    b.
     
    zagor, Sep 11, 2005
    #13
  14. Rale

    Rale Guest

    Thanks a lot to all of you who replied! I will make sure to make a posting
    as soon as I figure out
    what the actual problems is.

    Thanks again,
    Rale
     
    Rale, Sep 12, 2005
    #14
  15. Rale

    Rale Guest

    Thanks a lot to all of you who replied! I will make sure to make a posting
    as soon as I figure out
    what the actual problems is.

    Thanks again,
    Rale
     
    Rale, Sep 12, 2005
    #15
  16. Rale

    mahadragon Guest

    When was the last time you had the clutch replaced? A worn out clutch
    will result in slower acceleration while the higher engine revs will
    result in greater noise. Just a thought.
     
    mahadragon, Sep 12, 2005
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  17. Rale

    mahadragon Guest

    When was the last time you had the clutch replaced? A worn out clutch
    will result in slower acceleration while the higher engine revs will
    result in greater noise. Just a thought.
     
    mahadragon, Sep 12, 2005
    #17
  18. And thanks to you (in advance) for following up. Our collective advice gets
    better when we get more feedback.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 13, 2005
    #18
  19. And thanks to you (in advance) for following up. Our collective advice gets
    better when we get more feedback.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 13, 2005
    #19
  20. Rale

    Rale Guest

    Well, this only proves how little I know about cars: after changing oil and
    air filter, I took the car to the shop and it turns out that
    the problem is not really with the engine but with exhaust pipe, which is
    now fixed. The problem became much worse over the
    course of the last couple days that it became clear, even to me, that the
    sound was not coming from the engine. I am sorry for giving
    misleading information. I really apprecaite all the advices you gave me, and
    all the effort to have this resolved.

    Thanks again to all of you who replied to my message.

    Rale
     
    Rale, Sep 15, 2005
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