Honda Accord 98 Doesn't Start Morning time to time

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Homer, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. Homer

    Homer Guest

    Hi All,

    Time to time (once every two weeks or more lately) my Accord refuse to
    start. It just keep cranking until battery dies and even after getting
    boost from my wife's car it won't start in less than 10 minutes (it
    started from 1 minute and it's getting more and more now)

    There are some small coughing after first 5 minutes until I get more
    cough and finally starts. For next 2 minutes after that I still hear
    engine chock couple of times for one second (it seems tiny interruption
    in gas or electricity).
    After 2 minutes everything is normal and it will start VERY fast every
    time I turn the keys for the next 1 or 2 weeks.

    I checks the sparks and I see that I am getting sparks with no problem
    every time this thing happens. So it seems like a Gas problem.

    I've already checked the Main Reply and it was fine (I re-soldered it
    anyway).

    This maybe totally unrelated but I've noticed that whenever it's
    raining (I park my car outside), this thing happens (leaking water into
    gas system?)

    I cannot hear the Gas pump (maybe I should go for hearing test) in any
    situation (with or without problem).

    I know how to check getting sparks whenever I have problem but is there
    anyway to pull the gas pipe out and see if the gas is flowing too?

    Please Help.

    Thanks in advance,

    Homer
     
    Homer, Oct 12, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    1. don't just keep cranking until the battery goes flat - you'll fubar
    both the battery and the starter. if it won't start inside about 10
    seconds, it's not going to start, so get out and fix the problem!

    2. check the owners manual on how to start a flooded engine. your
    problem will probably be fixed with a couple of tanks of injector
    cleaner. stay away from cheap gasoline.
     
    jim beam, Oct 12, 2006
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    Like Jim said, it's the dribbling injector problem. That's why is
    happens after the vehicle has sat overnight.

    Just read the owner's manual about how to start a flooded Honda (pedal
    to the metal), and use injector cleaner (or gasohol) to solve the
    problem.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Oct 12, 2006
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  4. Homer

    Homer Guest

    Sorry but I forgot to mention about the injector issue. My first guess
    was injector too, so I put some of those injector treatment liquid
    inside the tank (three times) but nothing changed.

    Also holding the gas pedal all the way down didn't help me at all
    (though it's still looks like injector problem to me).

    When this thing happen and I take out one of those Sparks, I see that
    it's all wet (gas) so it seems really like a injector problem to me.

    I just don't know why it happens every two week and not all the time.

    How much does it cost to change those injectors?

    Oh, and also if I keep cranking engine will start eventually (every
    time).
     
    Homer, Oct 12, 2006
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    Have you disconnected your battery lately? You might need to with all
    the dead batteries / boosting you've been doing. Sometimes things get
    'scrambled' and need a reset.

    You have to hold it right to the floor so the computer knows to turn off
    the injectors. Since you'll know what to do right away next time, it
    will start a lot faster. Techron is the good stuff, but I used Gasohol
    and it fixed my Odyssey (I couldn't get techron here at the time).

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Oct 12, 2006
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  6. Homer

    jim beam Guest

    it's also worth mentioning that sometimes, too much carpet/badly
    adjusted throttle cable/worn linkage prevents full throttle down, so the
    computer won't register w.o.t. [wide open throttle]. have an assistant
    press the pedal while inspecting the throttle body to ensure correct
    operation.
     
    jim beam, Oct 12, 2006
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  7. Homer

    TeGGeR® Guest


    To check for fuel pump operation:

    1) Your pump is located beneath the trunk floor.
    2) Open the trunk and poke your head inside.
    3) Listen VERY carefully in Step 4
    4) Have helper turn the key to II.
    5) The pump will run for TWO seconds when the key is first turned to II.
    During this time, you will hear it hum.

    Do you hear what I describe here? Do you hear it consistently? Turn the key
    off, then to II again. Then do it again. And again. You should always hear
    the pump for two seconds.
     
    TeGGeR®, Oct 13, 2006
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    Graham W Guest

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Have you cleaned up the distributor cap? Take it off the car (note
    which plug lead goes where!) scrub it up in the sink inside and out
    with detergent and water and thoroughly dry with cloth and hairdryer.
    Replace and test.
     
    Graham W, Oct 13, 2006
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