Helms Manual for 93 del sol

Discussion in 'Del Sol' started by 93 sol si, Aug 12, 2006.

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    93 sol si Guest

    If you've got one lying around in good/decent condition, i'll buy it
    from you.

    I really need the drivetrain & engine sections badly. My clutch is bad
    and i want to replace it myself, but i don't want to wait 4-5 weeks to
    order it from Helminc.com. it's out of print so it has to be printed
    per order, thus taking so long to get it.

    If you don't have one that you want to sell, would you be willing to
    run off or scan the drivetrain & engine sections for me? I'll need the
    sections that will show me all the details of the clutch, gear box,
    drive shaft and engine.

    do i need other sections to replace my clutch?

    thanks!
     
    93 sol si, Aug 12, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    it's just a civic. likely your local library has a copy on the manual
    they can order in for you. you can legally copy the relevant sections
    for your personal use.
     
    jim beam, Aug 12, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    www.autozone.com 's free online manual for your 93 Del Sol
    duplicates much, if not all, of the factory service manual.
    See
    http://autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/15/71/d7/0900823d801571d7.jsp


    Compare its steps to the factory service manual's steps for
    the CRX (which is very close or dead on to your Del Sol) at
    http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/CRXManual/62SH200/8-4.pdf

    Good exploded parts drawings may also be had at
    www.slhonda.com 's parts site.
     
    Elle, Aug 12, 2006
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    93 sol si Guest

    Thanks, i'll check it out.
    BTW, I got my clutch replaced yesterday by a mechanic and the clutch is
    butter smooth now. i'm kinda glad i didn't try to tackle the job
    myself. lotta work. but i definitely want to get a manual to work on
    other stuff myself.
     
    93 sol si, Aug 13, 2006
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    93 sol si Guest

    thanks jim beam. i forgot that the library is still a great resource
    compared to the net.
     
    93 sol si, Aug 13, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    Want to say what your mechanic charged? That's often helpful
    to others.

    For the archives, I see the unofficial FAQ site for this
    newsgroup has an even better link to online manuals than
    Autozone's:

    http://search.ebscohost.com/
    Login (for free) using the username "lib" and the password
    "access." Click on "Auto Repair Reference Center." This
    seems to have repair procedures for all years except maybe
    the most recent. This site's procedures load faster than
    Autozone's but otherwise appear to duplicate, word for word,
    the Autozone's sites procedures.

    The Ebsco site's Honda procedures contain the following
    acknowledgment: "The Publisher expresses appreciation to
    Honda Motor Company, Ltd., for their generous assistance."

    Nice update on the clutch. I just completed a manual
    transmissions course and want to try doing this job myself
    when my 91 Civic's clutch starts slipping. I printed out the
    Alldata procedures (accessible to most technicians or
    automotive repair students and once in awhile through the
    computers at the public library) but they differ little from
    my Chilton's or the ebsco site above.
     
    Elle, Aug 13, 2006
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    93 sol si Guest

    the mechanic, who freelances and does jobs in people's own garage,
    chaged $500 for parts and labor. parts were all new, but not Honda
    parts. The flywheel was remanufactured, though. He replaced all the
    associated clutch parts, including the rear main seal and pilot
    bearing.

    he spent the entire day, from noon to 9pm, with some breaks and lots of
    conversations in between. I think if he really wanted to, he could've
    done it in about 4 hours. But he was really meticulous and wanted to
    take his time. since he didn't charge me an hourly rate, it didn't
    matter to me, as long as he was done in one day.

    I watch him as much as i could, but didn't see the entire procedure, so
    here are some insights. He used a type of engine brace with lots of
    chains and straps instead of a hoist to keep the engine in place when
    the gearbox was dropped. He used a piston jack to support and drop the
    gearbox.

    The only thing i noticed about the new clutch is that it feels much
    softer than what i'm used to in a honda clutch. I drove a 90 civc dx
    for 10 years and my 93 del sol si for about 4 years and i'm used to a
    heavy clutch pedal and some pop/feel when i release the clutch pedal
    when it engages. Now it's really smooth when the pedal is released.
    He told me that that was normal for a newly installed clutch and that
    it would feel heavier as it gets older. (I'm wondering if a genuine
    Honda clutch kit would feel more familiar.)

    If i had to do it again, i would order a genuine honda clutch kit and
    have him install it. He said he's been a mechanic for 10 years and has
    only used aftermarket parts without any problems. He said my clutch
    should last 100k miles, if i don't abuse it.

    speaking of abuse, he said that my clutch still had lots of miles left
    on it, but it's life was shortened because of my driving habbits. What
    happened was that one of the four springs popped out, he said it was
    because i have a tendency to release the clutch pedal too quickly and
    shifted too abruptly. I disagreed somewhat because i always thought i
    was pretty easy on the clutch.

    Thanks for the info on the online service manual.

    Good luck on your clutch job.
     
    93 sol si, Aug 14, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    Great update.

    Sounds like a fair price, even with the aftermarket parts. I
    am not quite convinced that OEM is the only reasonable way
    to go for a clutch job.
     
    Elle, Aug 14, 2006
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    Earle Horton Guest

    The parts about a newly installed clutch being soft, and the customer
    releasing it too quickly, I can't agree with those. I wonder if this
    mechanic has been to law school, because he is just pulling stuff out of
    this butt.

    Earle
     
    Earle Horton, Aug 15, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    possible, but not likely. much more likely the spring fatigued, then
    worked its way out on its own.

    regarding quality of the parts, oem is guaranteed good. the only way to
    exceed it is some of the high end after-market racing products, but
    those have driveability issues for a daily ride.
     
    jim beam, Aug 15, 2006
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