Gas mileage varies with brand of gas?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by slim, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. slim

    slim Guest

    Am I crazy or does the brand of gas really make a difference in MPG?

    Over the last year, I kept track of my mileage according to brand of
    gas used. Always regular.

    I would fill up a near-empty tank with a brand ,run untill almost
    empty, note mileage and fill with a different brand. Some of my friends
    say "gas is gas" but I have to say that Gulf gets me the best mileage.

    My 96 Honda DX coupe gets 22-23 overall (mostly city) with Gulf, 20-22
    with Mobil and 19-21 with Hess

    Is there a reason for that? Does gas vary that much from brand to brand?

    I am not trolling or looking to start a war.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    slim, Jan 31, 2007
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  2. slim

    Gohan Ryu Guest

    I get the best mileage using Chevron in my 96 Prelude. They use the
    highest quality fuel additives, which definitely affects the quality of
    the gas and your mileage. BMW, General Motors, Honda and Toyota got
    together and set a standard for what can be called "TOP TIER Gasoline".
    Chevron with Techron was already within that standard.
     
    Gohan Ryu, Jan 31, 2007
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  3. slim

    JP Guest

    Years ago I would occasionally fill up at a Union 76 station. Their gas was
    about 10% higher priced than the Arco, but I got about 10% better gas
    mileage using the Union gasoline. More energy per gallon, but I never knew
    why.
     
    JP, Jan 31, 2007
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  4. slim

    slim Guest

    Thanks for that info.

    Mobil and Hess are right near me, but what got me started was big
    improvement I got with Gulf (3-4 mpg better) and I thought all regular
    gas (at least from the big oilcos) was basically the same.
     
    slim, Jan 31, 2007
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  5. slim

    AZ Nomad Guest

    placebo effect
     
    AZ Nomad, Jan 31, 2007
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  6. slim

    SMS Guest

    That's way too close to draw any conclusions from. The pump at one
    station may be cutting off 1/4-1/3 gallon different than at another station.

    It is true that the more ethanol in the gasoline, the poorer the
    mileage, and some of the lower end gasolines end up with more ethanol
    mixed in, even though it's still less than the legal limit.
     
    SMS, Jan 31, 2007
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  7. It does make a difference, no question.

    Shell gives me the lowest cost per mile overall.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Feb 1, 2007
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  8. Some lean-burn or high compression engines can be picky about the gas.
    The 96 DX has a very basic engine so you're not seeing anything
    significant.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Feb 1, 2007
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  9. slim

    pj Guest

    SMS is correct, ethanol contains less energy than gasoline so if you are
    using gasahol, you have to expect somewhat lower mileage. The Mobile
    station near me is selling gasohol with 10% ethanol and I have seen a
    noticable decline in how far I can go on a tank of gas when I fill up there.
    Fortunately, that station is usually as cheap as Walmart or anyone else in
    the area. On the plus side, each gallon of ethanol in the gasoline is about
    0.9 gallons of gasoline we don't have to buy from the Mid East.
     
    pj, Feb 1, 2007
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  10. slim

    nm5k Guest


    They do make a difference. But it can also vary from station to
    station,
    and also from season to season, as the blends change.
    My accord runs better on some brands than others, so I can easily
    see mpg being effected. Ethenol gives less energy than gas per
    amount also.. But all our fuels here have it at 10%.. :(
    We have many brands here, and mine will run on all of them without
    pinging. But...I can tell small differences in the feel, pickup,
    smoothness,
    etc.. IE: Mine runs better on shell, chevron, or texaco, than it does
    on
    Valero, or diamond shamrock, etc.. I like chevon and texaco cuz
    some techron is added. But it runs good on shell too, and might
    possibly get the best mpg on shell. It's real close, and hard to
    call on the top three choices. But if I go from say chevron to
    valero, I can *feel* the difference in the way the car runs.
    Slightly less smooth..So I've been trying to stick to the first
    three. If fuel injected, using a gas with techron is a real good
    idea..Techron is good stuff, and actually does work to clean out
    that carbon crud.
    MK
     
    nm5k, Feb 1, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    yeah, but it takes more fuel to make the ethanol than it yields, once
    you take the agricultural side of the equation into account.
    unfortunate though it may be, buying gas from rag heads is a good thing.
    we simply need to buy less of it, not put lipstick on the backdoor
    farming subsidy pig and call it "domestic energy". and if we were
    really serious about foreign oil, we'd tax suv's to blazes and stop
    using "crash testing" as the excuse to make cars 50% heavier than they
    need to be, thereby ruining their gas efficiency. ban "oxygenated"
    fuels and encourage more diesels too.
     
    jim beam, Feb 1, 2007
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  12. Amen to that... And consider that the bulk of our petroleum imports is
    from our "pal" in Venezuela..

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Feb 2, 2007
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  13. Ethanol is a poor substitute to MTBE.. Unless there's another additive
    they use I think most use Ethanol to replace MTBE..
     
    PotIsYourFriend, Feb 2, 2007
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  14. slim

    Mike Smith Guest

    Actually, the top two sources of oil imported to the US are Canada and
    Mexico, respectively. Venezuela is #4, behind Saudi Arabia.

    http://snipurl.com/7c1e
     
    Mike Smith, Feb 4, 2007
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    cmiles3 Guest

    Two possible answers; ethanol may give you worse mpg than straight
    gasoline. This isn't true for all cars & driving conditions. Some
    fuel pumps give you more than 1 gallon for every gallon of fuel you
    pay for. Best I've seen is +6 tablespoons (about 2 ounces) based on
    the state's measure of proper fuel delivery. Of course, some fuel
    pumps don't give you the amount of gas you paid for- worst I've seen
    is -2 tablespoons. If your state requires this rating, you might
    experiment and keep track of mpg based on the rating.
     
    cmiles3, Feb 5, 2007
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