Galves vs Kelley Blue Book

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by JohnP, Dec 12, 2003.

  1. JohnP

    JohnP Guest

    Can someone please explain to me why there is such a big difference in what
    Galves says a car is worth and what Kelley Blue Book says it is. I went to a
    Honda dealer today looking to trade in my 98 Audi A4 for a CRV and we
    couldn't agree on a price for the trade in. I was using Kelley Blue Book to
    find out what my car was worth but the salesman told me all dealers use
    Galves!
     
    JohnP, Dec 12, 2003
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  2. JohnP

    Randolph Guest

    I assume you looked at "trade-in" value at KBB. Looking at Galves' web
    site (http://www.galves.com) it seems they target their services to
    dealerships. Seems natural that they would quote low trade-in values to
    cater to their target market.

    That said, none of the price guides are binding on the dealers, they are
    free to agree to any trade-in price they want.
     
    Randolph, Dec 12, 2003
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  3. JohnP

    Peter Parker Guest

    LOL! Did you shop in NJ? NJ dealers use Galves. Galves = Low ball...
     
    Peter Parker, Dec 12, 2003
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  4. JohnP

    JohnP Guest

    Yes, I did shop in NJ. Should I try PA?

     
    JohnP, Dec 12, 2003
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  5. John,

    Dealers are going to give you as much as they can for your car. This may
    sound a little odd, but the used car appraiser can make or break a lot of
    new car deals and they need to sell cars.
    BTW- Yes, I do work at a dealership as a salesman.
    We work a fine line between making our customers happy about the trade
    value while still trying not to pay too much.
    The KBB's and NADA and Galves? are only guides.
    As a salesperson, I want them to give all they can for the trade. It helps
    me! ;-)

    David
     
    david_in_palmetto, Dec 12, 2003
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  6. JohnP

    MikeHunt Guest

    NADA is the best source of what is actually happening at new car
    dealers, in terms of trade and retail pricing. The price is
    other guides includes exchange prices within the industry,
    including those between used car dealers and wholesalers. The
    vehicles that end up in used car dealers lot, as opposed to the
    lots of new cars dealers, are GENERALLY less desirable vehicles
    that change hands at lower prices. The NADA guides are for
    AVERAGE trades. One must realistically look at their vehicle to
    determine if it is about or below 'average' for the model year.
    Obviously the average three year old vehicle is going to be
    better than a five year old, on average. Dealers add and subtract
    for mileage above or below 15K per year average, as well. As one
    poster said, with the market being as competitive as it is today,
    a dealer will try to give you as much as he can to get the sale.
    However if you have already negotiated the selling price to his
    bottom line then asked for a trade price don't expect to be
    offered the average trade price listed in the guide. At that
    point there is not much left above wholesale to offer you for
    your trade, even if it the kind of vehicle the dealer can just
    wash and put in his front line. He still needs to warrant it for
    the next buyer and allow for monthly 'in stock' deprecation. The
    average new car trade sits on a dealers lot for three months.. A
    dealer will give up the sale rather than invest too much in a
    trade. He can always sell the new car, you were looking at, to
    somebody else in three months. Unsold new cars do not depreciate
    sitting on his lot, used cars do. The floor plan interest he
    pays on new cars is about half of what he pays on the used cars
    sitting on his lot.


    mike hunt
     
    MikeHunt, Dec 12, 2003
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  7. Have you considered selling your old car privately? Or shopping the car
    to other dealers (not necessarily the ones that you will buy a replacement
    car from) if you don't want to sell it privately?
     
    Timothy J. Lee, Dec 12, 2003
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  8. JohnP

    Robert Guest

    I think we shouldn't trade-in cars, you always loose money. Try to buy a car
    you will keep for a long time then buy a new one and keep both. I know this
    is not always possible but that is what I do now. When my civic hits 10
    years (easy), I will just put it on the side and get a new one.
    I'd say just keep your Audi for a few years more then buy a new CRV.
     
    Robert, Dec 12, 2003
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  9. Robert is right.
    All the experts say, drive til the wheels fall of. That's how to get the
    most value.
    I see a lot of folks who get 5 or longer year loans and want to trade after
    1 or 2 years and with so many manufacturers offering rebates, the trader is
    often way too negative to trade.
    Good thing the Honda has the best resale value and never offers rebates.
     
    david_in_palmetto, Dec 13, 2003
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  10. JohnP

    NetSock Guest

    Nice cut-n-paste Mikey.

    Care to let us know where you got it, or are you content plagiarizing?

    What am I thinking...of course you have no morals...

    --
    '03 S2000
    '94 Accord

    It's just about going fast...that's all...

    http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/
     
    NetSock, Dec 15, 2003
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