Fuel Antifreeze additives

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Robert Barr, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. Robert Barr

    Robert Barr Guest

    What's the lowdown on products like Heet? I have a nearly new '06 Civic
    (about 11k on it) and we're heading into some fairly bitter cold here
    in Chicago. I used to use Heet regularly in my GM products. Any reason
    why I shouldn't now?

    Thx.
     
    Robert Barr, Jan 18, 2008
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  2. Robert Barr

    Jeff Guest

    Most gasolines already have additives in them that prevent freezing. In
    particular, if your gasoline has ethanol in it (like 10% ethanol), then
    you definitely don't need it. The ethanol itself is a gasoline antifreeze.

    But wait! Don't take my word for it. Take the words of two nuts with
    degrees from MIT:

    http://cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2003/March/02.html

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 18, 2008
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  3. Robert Barr

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    If the gas is winter blend. Alcohol absorbs moisture. Nothing special.
     
    Tony Hwang, Jan 19, 2008
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  4. Robert Barr

    Jeff Guest

    Last I was at a Sunoco station (in the summer, no less), there was a
    sign on the pump that it contains 1/10 ethanol. The winter blends
    usually are oxygenated fuels. The oxygen parts means that there are
    ethers and alcohols and other molecules that absorb water well.

    Of course, usually fuels don't freeze in the summer.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jan 19, 2008
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  5. Robert Barr

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    I don't let fuel level go too low in the winter. Condensation can cause
    water in the tank when it is too close to empty. I live in Alberta where
    temp. can go as low as -35F or even lower with wind chill of like -50F.
    Battery in bad shape can have slush inside when car is parked outside.
     
    Tony Hwang, Jan 19, 2008
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  6. Robert Barr

    Matt Ion Guest

    Wind chill doesn't affect your gas.

    As for additives, your basic methyl hydrate is all I ever used (BC
    Interior, similar climate to much of Alberta)... but yeah, gas in these
    climates is generally sold with any necessary seasonal additives already
    blended in.
     
    Matt Ion, Jan 19, 2008
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  7. Robert Barr

    Jeff Guest

    Yet winter air has very little water vapor in it. So, unless the car or
    truck spends lots of time indoor (e.g., in a garage), I don't think this
    makes too much difference.

    None the less, this is a good idea.
     
    Jeff, Jan 19, 2008
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  8. Robert Barr

    Matt Ion Guest

    Once you hit about -20C or so, you can see the ice crystals floating by
    from the moisture in the air freezing :)
     
    Matt Ion, Jan 19, 2008
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