Fog Lights in Accord 2004

Discussion in 'Accord' started by t_lak77, Sep 4, 2004.

  1. t_lak77

    t_lak77 Guest

    My delaer charges $500 for fog lights with instalation, is honda
    pre-wired for them, or is it more complicated than that.
    any sugestions?

    I have 1000miles on it, and I am getting 20mpg, mix driving, should I
    expect more?

    thanks again
    t_lak77, Sep 4, 2004
  2. t_lak77

    Dick Guest

    You didn't give the engine or transmission. I found with our last two
    V-6 Accords, it takes at least 12,000 miles for the engine to loosen
    up and start giving the best mileage. With our 2003 V-6 we get around
    26 in mixed driving, and a consistent 34 mpg on a trip.

    I can't find the installation instructions for the fog lamps on the
    current generation Accord, but for the '99 is was a pretty difficult
    chore. Involved removing the bumper, cutting plastic, etc. The list
    price on the lamps is $330. You can buy them on line for around $236,
    but assuming the dealer is going to charge you list, that's $170 for
    tearing the front end of the car apart. Sounds reasonable.

    Yes, they should be pre-wired.

    Dick, Sep 4, 2004
  3. t_lak77

    Tim Burr Guest

    You can visit several web sites and look at the instructions as well as
    the price for the fog lights. Click on the link below and browse to your
    make & model > Look under Exterior > more.. Looks to be pain in but to
    Tim Burr, Sep 4, 2004
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    Milleron Guest

    My suggestion, and I'm 100% serious, is to forget fog lights
    altogether. IMHO, they're the most misunderstood accessory in the
    automotive world right now. All they're designed for is visualizing
    the edge of the road when there's fog so thick that you really can't
    see through it, and almost no one living outside of London or San
    Francisco or places like that has ANY legitimate reason to have them.
    It's terribly unfortunate that they started putting them on most
    vehicles in the US where the ONLY function they serve 99.9% of the
    time is to put TWICE as many lumens on the retinas of the people with
    whom the user is sharing the road, making it more difficult for them
    to see and making it MORE likely that an accident will happen to
    someone. Where I live in the midwest, it's especially aggravating to
    be driving down suburban streets where every unaware SUV driver has
    his or her ********* fog lights on for NO reason and aimed right in my
    eyes. He cannot see the road one iota better, but I can hardly see it
    at all. I think they're as ill-advised as people driving with cell
    phones plastered to their faces.

    You do NOT need fog lights. That's the reason Honda doesn't make them
    standard equipment, even on EX V6's. Please give consideration to not
    installing them.
    Milleron, Sep 5, 2004
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    Indirecto Guest

    My Accord I4 gets about 20mpg on pure city... goes up to 26-28 on highway.

    Indirecto, Sep 5, 2004
  6. t_lak77

    JM Guest

    You didn't say where you are, but the U.S. Accord fog lights are round
    and butt-ugly in my opinion. The Aussies get very nice
    parallelogram-shaped ones that I'd easily pay $500 for. They match
    the front end much better.

    There is some pre-wiring, but it doesn't help much. Lots of cutting
    and messing around, and if you make a mistake you've really screwed up
    your car. Get it done at the dealer if you decide to do this and
    aren't really really (I said really) handy.

    JM, Sep 5, 2004
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    the Warners Guest

    I had fog lights included in my final purchase dickering for my '04 Accord
    (well, not full cost, but substantially reduced).
    They are not round, but flat oval - and they look fairly decent on my black
    I would not have wanted to install them myself - although the kit comes with
    a template for where to cut out the plastic bumper facing, I would not want
    to be the one messing it up and having to replace the bumper. I still
    haven't figured out how to replace the bulb if/when it needs replacing.
    They are a full 55W light and do provide a lot of extra brightness on the
    road when the fog is thick. Unlike most fog light equipped vehicles whose
    owners run them constantly because they look "cool" or whatever, I only turn
    them on when I need them. Oh ok, I do have a small weakness to relatiate
    for a few minutes when some idiot follows me for miles with his on and let
    him pass.

    the Warners, Sep 5, 2004
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    Bubble Butt Guest

    You said you live in the Mid West. Try living in New England where 90% of
    the roads are poorly lit, some with no lights at all, and the rest are
    twisty, winding, hilly roads in the middle of no where. Then lets add rain,
    sleet, snow, and fog on top of that. It must be nice living in the FLAT,
    OPEN, and Temperate mid west! I have fog lights on my car in new England and
    keep them on all the time and don't have a problem with others that have
    theirs on all the time. If you have that much trouble with your eyes, maybe
    you should drive...or wear sunglasses.
    Bubble Butt, Sep 5, 2004
  9. Where on Earth do you live that you have that kind of weather all the time?
    Steve Bigelow, Sep 5, 2004
  10. t_lak77

    t_lak77 Guest

    tx for all responses, I intended to istall fog lights just for
    apperance, as far as milage I have v6
    thanks again
    t_lak77, Sep 5, 2004
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    Bubble Butt Guest

    RHODE ISLAND...Not Fun!!! Most of the time it is bad and the streets are
    Bubble Butt, Sep 6, 2004

  12. Hmm. The sun never shines in Rhode Island?
    Steve Bigelow, Sep 6, 2004
  13. t_lak77

    Bubble Butt Guest

    Sometimes, but not too much.

    Bubble Butt, Sep 6, 2004
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    Abeness Guest

    What, do you live out in Foster or something?? I didn't know they had
    Internet access in such places. <vbg>

    (I lived in Providence for a few years and got around the state a
    little. My mechanic was--really still is, he's great but now too far
    away--in Johnston.)
    Abeness, Sep 6, 2004
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    LBJGH Guest

    Check here for installation instructions...
    LBJGH, Sep 6, 2004
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    Milleron Guest

    Dear Bubble Butt,
    If you leave your fog lights on all the time, then you're one of the
    "unawares" who is apparently beyond reasoning with. Enjoy your fog
    lights, but remember that running them for no reason endangers
    oncoming drivers,= (and, indirectly, you) by interfering with their
    ability to see the road as well as they could if you turned those
    infernal things off when there's no reason to have them on.
    Milleron, Sep 7, 2004
  17. t_lak77

    Milleron Guest

    I'm sorry, but that's nothing but unadulterated rubbish.

    Milleron, Sep 7, 2004
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    Custers Guest

    Been there - done that - got screwed in the process. Our 2003 Accord was
    supposed to have them installed on delivery. They weren't. Honda tech
    didn't use the template right and botched the cut. Ended up having to have
    the bumper replaced. Painted at dealer - ("It'll be as good as the factory
    paint job. In fact, we'll gare-on-teee it!") Peeled within 3 months.
    Fortunately, that car was 1 in a million that ended up being a lemon and we
    got a 2004 to replace it (that is another long story.....) That's the long
    way around for getting a factory-painted bumper replacement, huh?!

    So, YEAH - if you plan to have fog lights installed, find a DEALER to do it.
    Just make sure you INSIST that a tech who is doing the work has lots of
    experience doing this install.

    This is NOT a job for the casual weekend warrior.


    It's a very easy process. Go to the following web page: Find foglights on list, and
    pick the 2-door or 4-door instructions.
    It is outlined in the installation instructions (last page or so from what I
    recall).... Takes less than 3 minutes.

    Had the same above dealer laugh at me when I told them I needed to replace
    the foglight lens or lamp after it was shattered with winter road debris.
    They told me the whole bumper had to be removed to replace it. What a
    bucket of bull crap. Needless to say, I haven't been back to that dealer
    Custers, Sep 7, 2004
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    SoCalMike Guest

    which means they didnt use the plastic primer. sure sign they dont know
    what theyre doing.
    SoCalMike, Sep 7, 2004
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    Trex97 Guest

    Driving in urban areas {LA/Orange County), cars and trucks with fog
    lights on are not a problem; people who drive off-road trucks that are
    jacked up with their lights, coming at you from the rear, talking
    about being blinded by the light.
    Trex97, Sep 8, 2004
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