Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Save Per Year

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by javawizard, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. javawizard

    javawizard Guest

    There's a calculator at www.fast-math.org in which you can enter the
    estimated mileage (or kilometerage) you drive per year, the mileage
    your current car is getting, the mileage a proposed new car will get,
    and it will show you how much money you can save. If you already have
    a fuel-efficient car, you can have fun running as-ifs and after-the-
    fact comparisons.
    Take care,
    - Jeff -
     
    javawizard, Oct 19, 2007
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  2. javawizard

    notaguru Guest

    My '04 Prius cost about $5,000 more than a comparable
    non-hybrid, so I factored in the loss of income from
    that money differential (we pay cash and keep cars until
    they're not economical to fix). Also, there are
    differences in maintenance. For example, my Prius may
    never need a brake job...

    And there's one more savings: time. In my driving
    environment, I estimate that my HOV-lane access is worth
    2.2 hours per month - and time is money. Those stickers
    aren't available any longer, but mine are good till 2011
    and I can guarantee that I'll keep this car at least
    that long.

    A great car!
     
    notaguru, Oct 19, 2007
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  3. javawizard

    notaguru Guest

    My '04 Prius cost about $5,000 more than a comparable
    non-hybrid, so I factored in the loss of income from
    that money differential (we pay cash and keep cars until
    they're not economical to fix). Also, there are
    differences in maintenance. For example, my Prius may
    never need a brake job...

    And there's one more savings: time. In my driving
    environment, I estimate that my HOV-lane access is worth
    2.2 hours per month - and time is money. Those stickers
    aren't available any longer, but mine are good till 2011
    and I can guarantee that I'll keep this car at least
    that long.

    A great car!
     
    notaguru, Oct 19, 2007
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  4. javawizard

    EdV Guest

    You cant put a price tag on saving the environment.
     
    EdV, Oct 19, 2007
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  5. javawizard

    EdV Guest

    You cant put a price tag on saving the environment.
     
    EdV, Oct 19, 2007
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  6. javawizard

    Mike Hunter Guest

    I hope you figured out that 5k would have purchased ALL of the fuel one
    would use in a Corolla for the first three of four years? Have you also
    added into you calculations the $4,000 cost of replacing the batteries at
    some point?

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Oct 19, 2007
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  7. javawizard

    Mike Hunter Guest

    I hope you figured out that 5k would have purchased ALL of the fuel one
    would use in a Corolla for the first three of four years? Have you also
    added into you calculations the $4,000 cost of replacing the batteries at
    some point?

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Oct 19, 2007
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  8. javawizard

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Thank goodness for all of you people that are willing to by hybrids. Not
    only are you saving the world you are saving gasoline so there will be
    enough gasoline for those can afford to own and drive the bigger safer RWD
    V8 sporty and luxury cars we love LOL

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Oct 19, 2007
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  9. javawizard

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Thank goodness for all of you people that are willing to by hybrids. Not
    only are you saving the world you are saving gasoline so there will be
    enough gasoline for those can afford to own and drive the bigger safer RWD
    V8 sporty and luxury cars we love LOL

    mike
     
    Mike Hunter, Oct 19, 2007
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  10. Yes, you can.

    Imagine that to preserve an appropriate and viable balance of people and
    food supply, that we have to eliminate the population of, say, Africa.

    We'd be saving the environment, right?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2007
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  11. Yes, you can.

    Imagine that to preserve an appropriate and viable balance of people and
    food supply, that we have to eliminate the population of, say, Africa.

    We'd be saving the environment, right?
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 19, 2007
    #11
  12. Thank goodness Ford's SUV fetish is going to drive them out of
    business.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Oct 20, 2007
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  13. Thank goodness Ford's SUV fetish is going to drive them out of
    business.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Oct 20, 2007
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  14. javawizard

    EdV Guest

    Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
    being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
    that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
     
    EdV, Oct 20, 2007
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  15. javawizard

    EdV Guest

    Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
    being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
    that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
     
    EdV, Oct 20, 2007
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  16. javawizard

    notaguru Guest

    Thinking further, the annual cost differential should
    also include consideration of trade-in or sales value
    when the time comes. I owned my early '04 for quite a
    while before it depreciated even a dollar, and today,
    after four years and a day, it can be sold for 80% of
    what I paid for it in 10/03 (kbb.com).

    In fact, since it has the desirable HOV stickers and is
    in perfect condition, I might get more than that...
    Astonishing!
     
    notaguru, Oct 20, 2007
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  17. javawizard

    notaguru Guest

    Thinking further, the annual cost differential should
    also include consideration of trade-in or sales value
    when the time comes. I owned my early '04 for quite a
    while before it depreciated even a dollar, and today,
    after four years and a day, it can be sold for 80% of
    what I paid for it in 10/03 (kbb.com).

    In fact, since it has the desirable HOV stickers and is
    in perfect condition, I might get more than that...
    Astonishing!
     
    notaguru, Oct 20, 2007
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  18. Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
    being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
    that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.[/QUOTE]

    Ah.

    Well, then, you CAN put a price tag on saving the environment, then.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 20, 2007
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  19. Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
    being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
    that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.[/QUOTE]

    Ah.

    Well, then, you CAN put a price tag on saving the environment, then.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 20, 2007
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  20. Not only that, but since automakers have to meet a "fleet
    average" MPG, all buying a hybrid does is allow some other
    person to buy a bigger monster truck and eat up the savings.

    (Here's a memorable op-ed from last year on the topic:

    David Leonhardt
    Buy a Hybrid, and Save a Guzzler
    Published: February 8, 2006
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/business/08leonhardt.html
    registration may be required)
     
    Steven M. O'Neill, Oct 20, 2007
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