emergency, no turning signals, gas, temp, all not working

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mopa, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. mopa

    mopa Guest

    Hey Everyone,

    Thanks again for taking the time to look at one of my questions, you
    guys are always so helpful, so once again I have another problem.

    Today after starting my car from college I noticed that my odometer,
    speedometer, turning signal lights, temperature, and the clock did not
    work. I looked at the fusebox under the hood and did not see anything
    burnt out, and also inside the car, and still could not find one.

    I have a 1993 Honda Civic LX (Manual) and noticed that there are 3
    fuses missing under the dash. Everything was working before, until. I
    am scared because I cannot use my turning signals, have no idea about
    my speed, and cannot figure how much gas I have. I just filled up, but
    cannot even determ by the mileage, as it the car won't even turn the
    mileage.

    Please help me if you can.

    Thanks a million!
    John
     
    mopa, Jan 11, 2006
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  2. mopa

    TeGGeR® Guest




    There should be three empty slots, yes. That's normal.

    Most of the things you list get their power from the #24 fuse under the
    dash. But if that were blown, I'd expect a lot more than what you report to
    be non-functional.





    Have you *pulled* all the fuses to see if there's one blown? Or did you
    just look at them while they were installed?
     
    TeGGeR®, Jan 11, 2006
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  3. mopa

    mopa Guest

    Hey Tegger, thanks for your reply. I checked half of them by ripping
    them out, and then checked the other half using a flashlight to see if
    the middle section was missing, which shows that it is blow. The thing
    is I am missing the fuse box diagram that says what is what. I cannot
    seem to find a picture of one on the internet.

    "I'd expect a lot more than what you report to
    be non-functional." I am not sure, but yes there might be other things
    that are not working that I have not noticed, its just a shock how one
    fuse could control all of those parts. They are all the major parts of
    the inside of the car. If I were to drive 100 miles, it would not even
    show that on the mileage gauge. I would think it would even with a
    blown fuse.

    Thanks again
     
    mopa, Jan 11, 2006
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  4. mopa

    mopa Guest

    Tegger,

    I took out all of the fuses, and still nothing. None of the fuses are
    burnt out, but when I turn on the emergency lights, the blinkers do
    blink, but they will not do so if I turn on the signals, and I have no
    idea how fast I am going, what time it is, how many miles I have
    driven, or any of those things. The clock light is off, but if I press
    it in, the clock shows, until I release. What do you think it might be?
    the entire dash might need replacing?

    I am thinking about just buying a newer car. Maybe a 1997/1999 Accord
    that is 4 cyl.
     
    mopa, Jan 11, 2006
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  5. mopa

    TeGGeR® Guest




    Waaait a minute... The turn signals, dash lights and headlights are
    controlled by the same stalk on the steering column.

    Wonder if your combination switch has gone bad.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jan 12, 2006
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  6. mopa

    mopa Guest

    Hey Tegger,

    Thanks for the reply. Yeah, but for some reason I can turn the switch
    and the headlights come on, but the turning signal does not. What seems
    odd to me is why if I turn the emergency lights on, they blink? but if
    I press down or up on the stick the blinkers will not go on.

    The best way to say it is nothing on the dash works, but the lights. At
    least if my odometer worked then i could figure how much gas I have. I
    get 300 miles per tank, and then I would have some idea. The odometer
    must run off some type of power. I would think it would just roll even
    if someone was blown, but it does not, not even the trip mileage.

    I have to drive with my hand out the window, so people know I am
    turning. Maybe the entire dash is broken? it just seems odd. The car
    other than that is perfect, runs perfect, everything has been
    maintained, but I need something to drive. My mechanic looked, and said
    he would have to rip out the dash before he could figure something out.
    I removed all the fuses like you said, and all of them are fine.

    Thanks again
     
    mopa, Jan 12, 2006
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  7. mopa

    Greg Guest

    Sounds like there's no power to the dash. Possibly ignition switch fault?

    Greg.
     
    Greg, Jan 12, 2006
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  8. mopa

    Paula Berry Guest

    Hello to you all...I have been a faithfull lurker of this group for the
    past 6 or 7 months and can not tell you how many times your hints and
    ideas have helped me out. John, I drive a 1990 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si
    Mannual with 240,000 miles on it and I had the same problem with it
    that you are having..... the solution was my back-up light switch
    located near the gear shift. I don't know if this helps but once it was
    repaired everything on my dash cluster was fine.
    Paula
     
    Paula Berry, Jan 17, 2006
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  9. mopa

    mopa Guest

    Hello Paula, Thanks for your reply. Wow, a back-up light switch could
    make the entire dash cluster not work? That sure is something how one
    part can cause an entire thing not to work. How much did it cost to get
    it fixed?

    The entire dash is out, but the headlights do work.
    There is no Turning Signals, Miles, Trips, Temp, or Gas gauge that
    works. The entire thing is out, what is even weird is that the clock
    does not work either. Now, if I press in the clock it will light up,
    but I can only guess there is one very powerful part that is not
    working, and that is causing a huge section of the car not to work.

    So I can turn I have to have my hands out the window, what makes it
    even worst two days ago it was raining, and I had to drive with the
    window open.

    Thanks again
     
    mopa, Jan 20, 2006
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  10. mopa

    Paula Berry Guest

    John,
    I looked at my repair invoice and it says, " short in wires,
    number 3 fuse blowing, reverse switch shorted out".
    Total cost around $56 including labor. All your problems were
    my problems in addition I had no back-up lights,but I did have head
    lights. I tried to gauge my speed to the traffic around me, but since
    80% of my driving is done on a 65 mile speed limit 4 lane highway I'm
    willing to bet I was going alot faster than that! I used to pray that
    nobody would be at an intersection when I needed to turn,or would think
    that this 52 year old woman was going senile and didn't know how to use
    her turn signals...

    Paula
     
    Paula Berry, Jan 20, 2006
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  11. mopa

    Matt Ion Guest

    Did you actually TEST the fuses, or just look at them? A fuse COULD be
    bad but not appear actually blown. Good way to test fuses for actual
    function is with a test light or multimeter: connect the ground lead to
    a good ground, then test both sides of each fuse (with ignition switch
    on to ensure ACC and IGN power as well). If you get power on one side
    of a fuse and not on the other, the fuse is bad.
     
    Matt Ion, Jan 20, 2006
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  12. mopa

    mopa Guest

    Paula, I will need to check into that. I also drive in a busy city,
    here in Atlanta we have 7 lanes in some places, and the traffic here is
    living hell. I do the same thing, pray that no one is going to be near,
    so I can turn, but I hate it when people don't use turning singles, yet
    here I am doing the same thing with my lights burnt out.

    I did not check my backup lights, but it may also be the same thing.

    Did they replace your dash Paula? or just wires, and a fuse?

    Thanks!
    Johnny
     
    mopa, Jan 23, 2006
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