Early return of leased Honda

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Michael T, Dec 29, 2004.

  1. Michael T

    Michael T Guest

    Due to his deteriorating eyesight my 89 year old father is having to return
    his Honda after 3 years of a 5 year lease.

    It has low mileage (18K), but I get the impression he is going to be facing
    a pretty hefty amount when he returns the car.

    Can someone advise us as to approximately what his cost will be for only
    using 3/5 ths of the lease?

    What are his options? Can he sell the car? Can the leasing company and/or he
    find another party to assume the lease?

    As you can see I am a novice when it comes to this leasing "stuff", so any
    help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. After all it is difficult
    enough for him to have to give up his license after all these years - much
    less take it on the chin from the leasing company.

    Thank you for your time.

    Michael T.
     
    Michael T, Dec 29, 2004
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  2. I don't have encouraging news, I'm afraid. I was considering leasing a car
    once when I read an article about leases. It indicated the typical lease is
    usually just about unbreakable - he is probably required to make the
    payments as specified no matter what. The article indicated leases are
    usually enforced even when the lessee dies. If that is the case, he is
    responsible for 5 years lease payments no matter what.

    Read the lease contract to see what options there are, but actually
    returning the car is probably the least attractive option. I doubt the
    leasing company will help you in any way. I'm sure he can't sell the car,
    since the leasing company owns it, not him. Perhaps a family member will
    take on the car and lease payments for the remaining 2 years - it would be a
    bit of a sweetheart deal for them anyway since the car has such low miles on
    it now.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 29, 2004
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  3. Michael T

    Brian Smith Guest

    Go to the dealership and speak with the sales manager there. He is the
    person you need to be asking these questions. Asking us from all over the
    world, isn't an efficient method to find the accurate and correct answers.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Dec 29, 2004
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  4. Michael T

    Jamco Guest

    http://www.leasetrader.com/e/home.asp
     
    Jamco, Dec 29, 2004
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  5. Michael T

    Paul Guest

    : Due to his deteriorating eyesight my 89 year old father is having to
    return
    : his Honda after 3 years of a 5 year lease.
    :
    : It has low mileage (18K), but I get the impression he is going to be
    facing
    : a pretty hefty amount when he returns the car.
    :
    : Can someone advise us as to approximately what his cost will be for only
    : using 3/5 ths of the lease?
    :
    : What are his options? Can he sell the car? Can the leasing company and/or
    he
    : find another party to assume the lease?
    :
    : As you can see I am a novice when it comes to this leasing "stuff", so any
    : help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. After all it is
    difficult
    : enough for him to have to give up his license after all these years - much
    : less take it on the chin from the leasing company.
    :
    : Thank you for your time.
    :
    : Michael T.
    :
    I can't picture myself signing a five-year lease at age 86, assuming I last
    that long!

    Paul
     
    Paul, Dec 29, 2004
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  6. Michael T

    Jason Guest

    When you visit the leasing company, ask if you have an option of buying
    the car at this point in time. If it turns out to be the best option--buy
    the car and try to sell it. You could use the money you make from the sell
    of the car to cover any fees related to ending the lease two years too
    soon. You might end up with some money if it works out well.
     
    Jason, Dec 30, 2004
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  7. actually, he faced a pretty hefty amount when he signed the contract
    that got him the car.

    The contract said that he agreed to pay $X amount of money, probably in
    monthly installments, and that in return he was allowed to drive the car
    Y number of miles. He could then return it in good shape to fulfill the
    contract. He also had the option of paying $Z amount of money to
    fulfill the contract, at which point he did not have to return the car.

    The point is, he entered into a contract to pay a finance company some
    amount of money. That he doesn't want the car anymore doesn't
    invalidate the contract.


    READ THE CONTRACT. The contract has all the terms in it. No one here
    knows what that contract says. The contract spells it ALL out. If you
    are unable to comprehend the contract, I suggest you contact an attorney
    to help you.

    He has paid some amount of money. He owes the balance of the total.
    You can sell the car and give the finance company the amount remaining.
    No big deal.

    Or, maybe the contract spells out what happens if you want to return the
    car early. No one here knows that.


    Only the contract will tell that. But keep in mind: it's a financial
    contract, with monies and duties owed by both sides. At any time, he
    can fulfill the financial end of the contract by paying what the
    contract says he owes at this point. There are probably two
    calculations: the amount he'd owe if he gave the car back, and the
    amount he'd owe if he kept the car. The contract will spell it all out.



    Well, he's not "taking it on the chin;" if anything, he invited the
    punch when he signed the contract. At this point, there's only a signed
    contract to fulfill. It's not about some "big, bad leasing company;"
    it's about the agreements he entered into and the fulfillment thereof.

    If you don't understand what your options are, consult an attorney.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 30, 2004
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  8. AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! RUN FAR AWAY from this advice.

    The dealership is a sales instrument. They don't finance cars. They
    may have acted as a sales instrument for the lease portion of the car in
    addition to the car itself, but they don't handle any of the lease
    details.

    A car dealership is there to sell cars. It's a one way street. They
    move it, forget about it, and move on. No salesman has any interest in
    this situation.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 30, 2004
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  9. Michael T

    Robert Guest

    I was just discussing such a situation with the Honda dealer the other
    day - he told me that from what he knew it takes about 3 years on a 4
    year lease to break even - that is when the physical depreciation
    catches up with the calculated depreciation on which your lease is
    calculated - in other words if you sold the car after 3 years you
    wouldn't lose too much when you had to square things out with the
    leasing company. Of course if he was bamboozled into adding long term
    warranties, life insurance, health insurance, upholstery protection
    etc. etc. that's another story.

    Find out what the buy out is and see if you could sell it for that
    amount - I've also heard of people taking over lease payments but I
    don't know the intricacies of this. Just be thankful it's a Honda and
    not a Taurus or Impala which depreciate a lot in 3 years.

    Around here a 3 year old Accord is still getting around $17,000 to
    19,000 depending on the mileage and model with the Civics getting
    close to that as compared to some American makes going for around
    12,000 -13,000 - quite a difference.


    Worse case scenario is sell your own car and take over the payments on
    the Honda.

    Good luck

    Robert
     
    Robert, Dec 31, 2004
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  10. Michael T

    Cosmin N. Guest


    This is especially true since it is obviousl this person just bought his
    last car. Dealerships are willing to end leases early without penalties,
    or forgive the extra mileage charge, but only on the condition that the
    person leases/buys another car from the dealership in exchange. Even
    then, it must be less than 1 year or 10000km. Anything over that, they
    won't even consider it.

    Cosmin
     
    Cosmin N., Dec 31, 2004
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  11. Michael T

    Brian Smith Guest

    Maybe in your end of the world, my advice wouldn't work, but here it does.
     
    Brian Smith, Dec 31, 2004
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  12. Michael T

    Brian Smith Guest

    What you say may be true where you are, but not here. I'm speaking from
    experience, not speculating.
     
    Brian Smith, Dec 31, 2004
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  13. Michael T

    JXStern Guest

    In general, he'd have to buy it before he could sell it.

    But that's a difficult thing to make work for you, because the leasing
    companies always ream you on the purchase price. A dealer is extended
    a price at least 10% better, simply because they are in the trade.
    What you want to do is find a dealer who will buy the lease and the
    car out from you. If it's low miles and in good shape, and you find a
    reasonable dealer, you should be able to break even.

    Or, if you have another relative who would like the car, you might
    make an intra-family deal of some kind, maybe the leasing company
    would transfer the lease for some token payment, I've never tried
    that.

    Good luck.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Jan 1, 2005
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