Directional Tires and unstable handling (97 Accord 200K)

Discussion in 'Accord' started by techman41973, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. techman41973

    techman41973 Guest

    I have a Honda Accord with 200K miles.
    Over the past year, I have had two different brands/sets of directional
    tires (Yokohama Avids & now Michelin Exalto A/S tires). I keep
    experiencing erratic handling, mostly noticable on the freeway. Road
    texture, especially grooved pavement seems to trip up the car's
    handling, causing erratic lateral movement as if the car riding on
    rails. In the past year, 3 mechanics checked out my steering and
    suspension system and found nothing wrong. My alignment has been
    checked many times over the year and is fine. I did have new Monroe
    Sensatrac strutts installed before these sets of tires. This was my
    second set of Sensatracs, where the previous set were fine. I have the
    stock alloy rims. Not sure if old age or corrosion on wheels could
    cause this problem. I did hear from one mechanic that directional tires
    are more prone to these type of handling problems. I wonder if anyone
    else has experienced these type of handling issues. Thanks
    techman41973, Jan 3, 2007
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    MishaA Guest

    I drive on directionals god knows how many years and miles by now, and I
    never had this problem...
    MishaA, Jan 3, 2007
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    motsco_ Guest


    I'd try about 30 PSI (cold) and see if it helps. Have you determined if
    your guage is OK? I think that's the only detail you didn't provide.

    motsco_, Jan 3, 2007
  4. Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
    with 200,000 mi. on it. Unless you are really attached. Then replace
    the entire steering mechnism. Then buy exotic parts for it.
    deerknucklesociety, Jan 3, 2007
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    MishaA Guest

    If you are not aware of this, hondas tend to last way more than 200 and
    even 300K with a proper maintenance...
    MishaA, Jan 3, 2007
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    Brent P Guest

    On what planet do simple wear items like tires and struts cost more than
    the payments on a rapidly depreciating new car?
    Brent P, Jan 3, 2007
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    E Meyer Guest

    What tire pressure are you running? Too low will make it wallow, to much
    will make it follow every groove in the road.
    E Meyer, Jan 3, 2007
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    N8N Guest

    N8N, Jan 3, 2007
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    techman41973 Guest

    Why? I love my Accord. Other than this problem, it runs like it's new.
    In fact I take such good care of the interior, it looks brand new. At
    the least I am waiting until the 2008 Accord.
    techman41973, Jan 3, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    check the condition of the suspension bushings and ball joints - when
    they wear, handling can get squirrely, especially the upper front
    wishbone pivot.
    jim beam, Jan 4, 2007
  11. Rather than having your alignment adjusted to spec, have it adjusted for
    your desired handling. A good mechanic can maybe do it. Your average
    tire store is lucky if they hook up the alignment testing machinery
    Kevin McMurtrie, Jan 4, 2007
  12. It might be related to the directional tires. My 99 Mustang GT came
    with directional Goodyear gatorbacks and those were replaced with
    directional Yokohama's and both tracked something fierce. Sometimes
    even slightly rutted roads would jerk the car from side to side. I
    recently replaced the yoko's with asymmetrical tread Kuhmo all season
    tires. The difference is night and day, the handling is about the
    same but gone is the terrible tracking plus they are quieter then
    either of the other tires were.
    Ashton Crusher, Jan 4, 2007
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    Daniel Guest

    I am using Yokohama AVID Touring TRZ directional tires on a Camry with
    153,000 miles, but have replaced the ball joints, and control arms. The
    factory service manual calls for zero play in the ball joints and I
    found some on one side so replaced both. When changing the axles,
    noticed cracking in the rear bushing for the control arm so replaced
    them. When removed it could be seen that portions of the rubber were
    cracked all the way through.
    I get some very minor occasional tracking along freeway pavement rain
    grooves, but it diminished after a few hundred miles of driving so it
    is now barely even noticeable. I'm actually quite pleased with the
    tires overall.
    Daniel, Jan 4, 2007
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    Big Al Guest

    I had them same issue with an older GM, After changing several front end
    parts that were just marginally worn and an alignment, the car still
    followed ruts and pulled to one side or the other when braking. When I put
    my cheap snow tires back on all four corners the problem went away.
    Champagne tires on a beer car, go figure.
    Big Al, Jan 5, 2007
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    slim Guest

    What are you driving?

    My 10 year old Honda Civic runs great. Can do 80+ all day or take the
    kids to school on a ten minute drive. I am keeping it as long as
    possible given that I have a $1,500 a year budget for parts. I have a
    new front drive axles, new Pirelli 400's all around, and relaced the
    water pump/timing chain, catalytic converter last year. Only 77K.

    What the hell do I need car payments for??????
    slim, Jan 17, 2007
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