CRV Valve Tick After Adjustment and a few other questions.

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by trestonklease, Feb 10, 2006.

  1. I bought a 1999 CRV a while ago and recenty had the valves adjusted.
    before (it had 60k on the odo when I purchased). As per the info I got
    from this forum, I had them adjusted to the loose side of spec. Now
    when the vehicle is idling I hear a tick-tick from the driver side
    valve area. It's not a constant ticking that repeats in a distinctive
    pattern but sort of a random tick-tick that comes and goes. Any
    thoughts? Something to worry about? Cause? cure? Just let it be?

    I already had the rear-diff squeal and changed the fluid myself and
    it's a silent as can be now, thank you to the forum for that info. Also
    looking to replace the timing belt, water-pump and idler pulleys(sp?)
    at 90k, too soon? Not soon enough?

    Tires, it has winter treads (they can take studs) and the tire noise is
    pretty loud. Are passenger car tires ok as a replacement? Was looking
    at Khumo Touring 795 A/S and Hankook Mileage Plus II H725's. Had the
    Kumho's before on a mini-van and presently have them on a Ford
    Countour. Does the CRV need an SUV/Truck tire?

    And lastly, this thing has so many clunks and bangs from the
    suspension, it's very irritating. The dealer says they found nothing
    abnormal and according to the work order "found no abnormal noises,
    sounds like similar vehicles. What???? Honda engineered and built a
    vehicle that sounds like this on purpose? They said the bushing are
    good. Any suggestions on that?

    trestonklease, Feb 10, 2006
  2. trestonklease

    Elle Guest

    Does the ticking go away as the car warms up?

    Do you have an owner's manual? It gives the miles/years for the timing belt.
    Elle, Feb 10, 2006
  3. Is that the same owners manual that tells me to have the valves
    adjusted at 105k or only if they get noisy? Change rear differential
    fluid at 90k?

    I'm sure most would agree that both those intervals are wrong, and the
    valve interval being followed according to the manual could result in a
    very expensive repair bill, that's why I was asking about the timing
    belt/water pump.
    trestonklease, Feb 10, 2006
  4. trestonklease

    Elle Guest

    I guess that's a no.

    But I don't really know.

    One wiseass tends to dampen volunteer enthusiasm.
    Elle, Feb 10, 2006
  5. I'm not sure where you want to go with this.

    Yes, I have an owners manual and it has information in it that is
    considered wrong among Honda enthusiasts. Hence there is good reason to
    seek the advice of others regardless of what the owners manual tells
    I could say the same thing about your "owners manual" reply. I wasn't
    being a wise-ass, I was stressing that the manual is not always
    correct. There are cases where simply directing someone to their owners
    manual can be costly, I'm trying to avoid that.
    trestonklease, Feb 10, 2006
  6. trestonklease

    TeGGeR® Guest

    wrote in

    One valve is slightly too loose. As long as you can stand the noise, just
    let it be. A loose valve is a happy valve.

    However, if the noise changes, get it looked at just to make sure somebody
    didn't forget to tighten a locknut or something.

    Mostly Curly, I'd suspect. He's been the primary promulgator of diff fluid
    problem solutions.

    I thought it was over 105K by 1999? Still got an owner's manual?
    TeGGeR®, Feb 10, 2006
  7. From our perspective there is a wide range of timing belt recommended change
    intervals among the various Honda/Acura models and years out there. The
    owner's manual is going to be a lot better than any guess all but the most
    deeply knowledgable of us could provide. It is way beyond me.

    Michael Pardee, Feb 10, 2006
  8. If it's happy, I'm happy.

    Will do. Thank you.

    I believe that is correct. I was freaking when I first heard it, all's
    quiet now.

    Yes, it says 105k. I was wondering if I should have it done sooner as I
    haven't found many records for this vehicle, thinking maybe some things
    should be done sooner if the previous owner was lax in doing proper
    The dealer shows 3 records, only one being an oil change. I didn't do
    my homework before buying and the lack of records has me a little
    worried. I realize he/she may have done things themselves, but I don't
    know at this point.

    Yes, dumb on my part.
    trestonklease, Feb 11, 2006
  9. Yes, I appreciate that. As I explained in another post, there is a lack
    of records of things being done to this vehicle by the previous owner,
    I should have asked that if maintenance was lax, should some things be
    done sooner than the owners manual states.
    trestonklease, Feb 11, 2006
  10. trestonklease

    TeGGeR® Guest

    wrote in

    It's 105K or seven years as I recall.

    Hondas have what are known as "interference" engines. When the belt snaps,
    you risk seriously expensive damage.
    Doesn't mean it WILL get damaged, just that the risk is exponentially

    Having said that, the ones that break are taken *considerably* over their
    limits. It appears Honda builds in quite a safety factor into their
    schedule. But do you really want to take the chance?

    Paranoia is a very useful thing when buying a used car. Very few owners pay
    any sort of attention to maintenance and repair.
    TeGGeR®, Feb 11, 2006
  11. trestonklease

    Elle Guest

    No wise-assness was intended. Many Honda owners do not know that the owner's
    manual has a maintenance schedule in it.

    IMO the valve lash adjustment frequency has declined over the years because
    of better technology. My 91 Civic's owner manual recommends a certain
    frequency, and it has worked fine.

    I can't comment on your differential fluid objection.

    Timing belt frequencies in the owner's manual are also considered to be
    accurate, based on my reading and my own work with my Honda.

    IIRC the 99 CRV manual says 7 years or 105k miles for normal driving
    conditions. Since you're about at the 7-year mark, and assuming I am
    remembering correctly, then yes, do the timing belt within the next 12
    months. It is said by shops and amateurs alike to do the water pump at the
    same time, because of the overlap in labor, and the expected life of the
    water pump is the same. As for the idler pulley, I'd go with the manual. If
    the manual says nothing on it, keep checking back. Certain timing
    belt-related parts can be done every other timing belt change.

    On the other hand, if you haven't any idea how the vehicle was driven
    previously, and I'm wrong about the 7 years, doing the timing belt now is a
    good idea. Severe driving conditions of course reduce the time and mileage
    interval for the timing belt. These conditions are listed in the owner's
    Elle, Feb 11, 2006
  12. No problem.
    I'm not sure I follow you on this. My rear diff was noisy the first
    time the 4wd kicked in and I was alarmed until I searched here and
    found the cure, changing the fluid. I had visions of costly repairs
    until I read what was causing it.
    Good advice, thank you.

    That is what prompted my concern, few records from the previous owner
    have me thinking I should have it done sooner to be on the safe side.
    trestonklease, Feb 11, 2006
  13. trestonklease

    Elle Guest

    I just meant that I am not read up on the subject. I am in no position to
    dispute your finding. But if Curly was the one who steered you this way,
    that does not surprise me. He is one of many fine contributors here with
    important experience to share.

    Hopefully more will chime in with comments on the tires and suspension, etc.
    I am a mere, puny 91 Civic owner. :)
    Elle, Feb 11, 2006
  14. <SNIP>
    European manuals say 50,000Km for the valves (30,000 Miles). The Dual
    pump Fluid only lasts 50,000 Km / two years.
    An oil change might make that valve quiet down, but Tegger's right, it's
    a 'happy valve' as long as the mechanic didn't fail tighten the locknut
    Add all the extra DOTS to your owner's manual maintenance schedule, and
    you'll impress the person you sell it to in ten years.
    The TBelt has 6 years on it. I think it's time anyway. Personally, I
    wouldn't change the water pump unless I knew the former owner was using
    non-honda coolant or TAP WATER (Hondacide). The idler pulley will
    probably last until the fourth or fifth TBelt, unless you're someplace
    really hot.

    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 12, 2006
  15. Do a google (or eBay) search for rear stabilizer links. You can get two
    for the price of one on eBay. The get very noisy when going over bumps.
    Clack clack. For the road test your dealer sent a mechanic who wears no
    hearing protection while using air tools. Find a bumpy dirt road and get
    your helper to (carefully) hang out the tailgate or door to see where
    it's coming from. You're supposed to be able to get them off with a
    14?mm wrench and a 5mm allen wrench, but you should have a nut-splitter
    at the ready to cut the frustration level down. :)

    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 12, 2006
  16. Would it have to be a constant, rhythmic tick for it to be a valve?

    It's like random,

    I just changed the oil about 3 weeks ago. I assume I'd have to open the
    valve cover to see if it's the locknut? It's been run about 2500 miles
    since I first noticed the ticking, if it was the locknut, would it have
    done something more by now, like fall off or cause some other problem?
    I've never done something like pull the valve cover on a vehicle so I'm
    a little apprehensive at that prospect.
    I'm gonna run it forever. :)
    That's my main problem, no info on what the past owner did or didn't do
    or what they used. I'll get that TBelt replaced then. Thanks for the
    great info, all of you.
    trestonklease, Feb 12, 2006
  17. Thanks for that bit of info. I'll get my wife to drive it tomorrow
    while I hang out back and listen.
    trestonklease, Feb 12, 2006

  18. --------------------------------

    A camcorder (a light one) does a great job when you can't get your own
    ear in close.

    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 12, 2006
  19. ---
    Sounds more like your PCV clicking. Use a couple feet of garden hose or
    heater hose to listen for it. Pinch the hose and see if it changes the

    if it was the locknut, would it have
    You'd have a misfire indication, or backfiring, or 25% power loss by now
    (we were pulling your leg a bit)

    Find the dealer where they had it serviced and just walk in. Tell them
    you're the new owner (have registration in your pocket) and ask if
    they'd please give you PRINTS of all the service. It always works for
    me. Have them photocopy your registration and fax it to Honda CORPORATE
    (whatever country you are in). Then you'll get future notification of
    recalls, etc. While there, get the other info like actual date in
    service, which location sold it, whether the ignition switch recall was
    performed, and other outstanding recalls. Have you got the real owner's
    manual, and the radio CODE (if needed)?

    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 12, 2006
  20. Thanks for all the advice. Contacted the dealer today. I have the
    original manual. Vehicle has an aftermarket CD player/radio that uses a
    code that I picked myself.
    trestonklease, Feb 13, 2006
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