CR-V Fires

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HONDA ENGINE FIRES

Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55



ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.


THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.

THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!


AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.

THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT FIRE.

IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD THAN
IN OTHER CARS.

I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN CHANGING
OIL.


NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
SPILL.

 

I think you have a more serious problem than your CR-V bursting into
flames. Your Caps Lock key is broken!

Cosmin

 

It's probably a copy & paste.

 

Yeah were all doomed because some tech did'nt install a oil filter properly!

Were DOOMED.........................

Tom

 

<SNIP>

Since when is the first oil change on a CRV at 3,000 miles ? ?

Any car will burn if you slop oil on the exhaust pipe.

'Curly'

 

GM's and Fords burn up every day. Why don't they make the news?

 

To think Scott Peterson could have just bought his wife a Honda CR-V?

 

We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com

So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a non-issue,
as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew that
you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
breaking down?
I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities tell
me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
dies.

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Bush "Iraq has tons of Weapons of Mass Destruction"
Honda "The CR-V fires have been caused by dumb factory-certified
technicians, that's the extent of it"
Ken Lay "I didn't know Enron was collapsing"
OJ Simpson "I'm 100% not guilty"
Bill Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."

 

GM's and Fords burn up every day. Why don't they make the news?

haha, that happens daily!! they could tape the news once then just replay
it every night!!

 

Or maybe, people that have a CR-V will make sure that the people they allow
to perform work on their vehicle's are qualified to use a screwdriver or
wrench. And, that they have a steady enough hand to pour liquids without
spilling them ;^)

 

The *issue* is the location of the catalytic convertor in relation to the
oil filter.

Yes, there's a side issue here with sloppy workmanship taking place during
an oil change, but Honda is trying to push all the blame onto those
service shops performing oil changes and is trying to push the blame out
of their house for the design problem.

Fortunately I'm not a CR-V owner, but if I were, I'd be nervous as hell
after every oil change. That shouldn't have to be the case. Sloppy
workmanship resulting in an oil stain on my driveway or garage floor or
running the engine out of oil is one thing, burning up the car with me or
my family in it is an entirely different matter. One is a damage or
malfunction issue, the other is a personal safety matter. This buck stops
at the manufacturer, not at the service shop.

Since this is only affecting the Honda CR-V, I do not see how Honda can
point to the service shop when the cause stems directly from a design
issue.

I can see it now, CR-V owners requiring oil change shops all across the
land to begin signing affidavits certifying the accuracy of their work.

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Well, so far at least thirty of them have not.

This is not a non-issue. If it actually happens to 1 in 1000 vehicles,
it's a catastrophe. Imagine the same thing happening at the same rate
to, say, GM pickup trucks.

That said, I doubt something shady is going on at Honda with respect to
this. I have heard 'recall' mentioned, but I wonder if the fix doesn't
entail re-engineering the block. I suppose they don't have a reasonable
answer yet.

Clearly, if the average user (or oil shop guy) doing what is usually
done to effect an oil change can engender this problem this often, there
is a design flaw.

I wouldn't sell my car; I'd make sure I changed the oil.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil...