Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by dispman2000, Mar 2, 2005.

  1. dispman2000

    dispman2000 Guest

    I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
    12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
    Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.

    Any help will be much appreciated.
     
    dispman2000, Mar 2, 2005
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  2. dispman2000

    halo2 guy Guest

    You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96 Accord
    but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to you.

    I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.

    I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
    not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
    curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just a
    high amp load?
     
    halo2 guy, Mar 2, 2005
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  3. dispman2000

    dispman2000 Guest

    The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
    and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
    lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
    between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
    15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
    fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
    to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.

    Thanks for your help.
     
    dispman2000, Mar 2, 2005
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  4. dispman2000

    halo2 guy Guest

    well in my factory electrical 1996 accord manual the number 9 fuse is under
    the dash/ as opposed to under the hood and it is listed as 7.5 amp fuse it
    is called the starter signal fuse which protects the "guage assembly, pgm-fi
    main relay, powertrain or engine control module (pcm or ECM)"
     
    halo2 guy, Mar 2, 2005
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  5. dispman2000

    Woody Guest

    Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you unplug
    the fan to see if it is shorted?
     
    Woody, Mar 3, 2005
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  6. dispman2000

    scott Guest

    BONEHEAD
    good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
    maybe garage.
    "first, do no harm", words to live by
     
    scott, Mar 4, 2005
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  7. dispman2000

    Randolph Guest

    wrote:
    I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
    with a link to these.

    In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
    does feed the compressor clutch.

    In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
    section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
    organized the same way?
     
    Randolph, Mar 4, 2005
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  8. dispman2000

    Woody Guest

    Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
    THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.
     
    Woody, Mar 4, 2005
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  9. dispman2000

    dispman2000 Guest

    Yp already tried that. That is why I was looking for a wiring diagram
    to see where all this fuse went to. I was looking for answers not a
    smartass reply.
     
    dispman2000, Mar 5, 2005
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  10. dispman2000

    halo2 guy Guest

    I had mentioned what things were on this circuit a few posts ago. I also
    mentioned that my book shows fuse number 9 as a 7.5 amp fuse. That circuit
    is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position of the key. It
    powers your guage assembly, clutch interlock switch if manual trans, PGM-FI
    main relay and powertrain control module....all in the start position
     
    halo2 guy, Mar 5, 2005
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  11. dispman2000

    dispman2000 Guest

    Don't know what is correct. In my owners manual this fuse is listed as
    fuse #9 15 amps under the hood.. The cover for the fuse box list it as
    the compressor fan 15 amp. One has to be wrong maybe i will figure
    this out. Hate to go to the dealer. I went there last Summer and they
    wanted to do $1000 worth of work. Took it to an independent who used
    to work there and he did all the work for around $350. I am not sure
    if he does electrical work but I do know he is honest and does good
    work.
     
    dispman2000, Mar 5, 2005
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  12. "That circuit is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position
    of the key."

    I think you mean ignition on position ?

    D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.
     
    David and Tracey Mills, Mar 6, 2005
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  13. dispman2000

    halo2 guy Guest

    Just quoting the book verbatim...it states fuse 9 is "hot in start" So
    that would indicate that while the engine is turning over power is supplied
    to the circuit...
     
    halo2 guy, Mar 6, 2005
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  14. dispman2000

    halo2 guy Guest

    let us clarify that this is a 96 accord...DX or LX or EX doesn't matter as
    they all use the same manual.
     
    halo2 guy, Mar 6, 2005
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  15. Okay, just wondering because you said that the gauge assembly was on
    that circuit, and I was wondering where the gauge assembly would get its
    feed from if it wasn't from the ignition on position. Must be different
    from my Civic.

    D.Mills - Licensed Auto Technician.
     
    David and Tracey Mills, Mar 6, 2005
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  16. dispman2000

    halo2 guy Guest

    Obviously the guage assembly gets it's power from some other source during
    normal operation.

    The power going to the guage assembly is actually for the break light bulb
    check circuit. Accords have the brake light out indicator. The power from
    fuse 9, during the start mode, powers this circuit and checks for burnt out
    bulbs.
     
    halo2 guy, Mar 6, 2005
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  17. Okay, thanks.....sounds similar to my old '84 Volvo.

    D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.
     
    David and Tracey Mills, Mar 6, 2005
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  18. dispman2000

    dispman2000 Guest

    It is a 1996 Accord DX.

     
    dispman2000, Mar 6, 2005
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