Comparison b/w Civic SI, Civic DX-G, Corolla, & Matrix?

Ghislain said:
You are using US instead of Canadian prices. A LeSabre Custom is $34K in Canada. Even with rebates it will definitely cost more than $20K. However you can get a base Vibe for approximately $20K plus GST and PST.
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True - that's US dollars. That's still going to be $20K USD for a new one, which is a great deal. The Vibe - yeah - you can't get a better value for $20K Can.
 
Ghislain said:
You are using US instead of Canadian prices. A LeSabre Custom is $34K in Canada. Even with rebates it will definitely cost more than $20K. However you can get a base Vibe for approximately $20K plus GST and PST.
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True - that's US dollars. That's still going to be $20K USD for a new one, which is a great deal. The Vibe - yeah - you can't get a better value for $20K Can.
 
Ghislain said:
You are using US instead of Canadian prices. A LeSabre Custom is $34K in Canada. Even with rebates it will definitely cost more than $20K. However you can get a base Vibe for approximately $20K plus GST and PST.
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True - that's US dollars. That's still going to be $20K USD for a new one, which is a great deal. The Vibe - yeah - you can't get a better value for $20K Can.
 
Timothy said:
Small cars should get significantly better than 27mpg.
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Yet most don't - they have maybe 50-60hp less and weigh a thousand pounds less, plus have half the displacement, and maybe get 35mpg highway. GM builds the most fuel eficient engines for the power and displacement of anyone other than maybe the V6 in the Camry/Avalon.
 
Timothy said:
Small cars should get significantly better than 27mpg.
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Yet most don't - they have maybe 50-60hp less and weigh a thousand pounds less, plus have half the displacement, and maybe get 35mpg highway. GM builds the most fuel eficient engines for the power and displacement of anyone other than maybe the V6 in the Camry/Avalon.
 
Timothy said:
Small cars should get significantly better than 27mpg.
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Yet most don't - they have maybe 50-60hp less and weigh a thousand pounds less, plus have half the displacement, and maybe get 35mpg highway. GM builds the most fuel eficient engines for the power and displacement of anyone other than maybe the V6 in the Camry/Avalon.
 
The Vibe - yeah - you can't
get a better value for $20K Can.
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Is the Vibe/Matrix REALLY that good?

What features abt it are so good?

Just curious....

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege ES and altho its been a
great little car.... cant haul a THING in it. hence
looking at a hatchback style vehicle but something with as good of gas milage as the Protege.
 
The Vibe - yeah - you can't
get a better value for $20K Can.
Click to expand...

Is the Vibe/Matrix REALLY that good?

What features abt it are so good?

Just curious....

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege ES and altho its been a
great little car.... cant haul a THING in it. hence
looking at a hatchback style vehicle but something with as good of gas milage as the Protege.
 
The Vibe - yeah - you can't
get a better value for $20K Can.
Click to expand...

Is the Vibe/Matrix REALLY that good?

What features abt it are so good?

Just curious....

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege ES and altho its been a
great little car.... cant haul a THING in it. hence
looking at a hatchback style vehicle but something with as good of gas milage as the Protege.
 
Is the Vibe/Matrix REALLY that good?

What features abt it are so good?

Just curious....

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege ES and altho its been a
great little car.... cant haul a THING in it. hence
looking at a hatchback style vehicle but something with as good of gas milage as the Protege.
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It's a Corolla engine and underbody with a Subaru
Forester type body on it. The seats fold flat
as a truck bed and it has tie-down points everywhere.
The entire rear cargo area is also covered in tough
but attractive plastic coating, kind of like how the Element is - but not ugly like the Element.

Actually useable to haul construction supplies and
so on, and then it converts back into a family car.
Half minivan, half stationwagon. It is the most
ergonomically friendly car as far as useability in a
wide variety of situations other than maybe a Forester.

But it costs barely more than a Corolla. :) The AWD
is kind of flaky, but the FWD version is great. I like
the Vibe a bit more as the rear hach has a bit more clearance and GM has some nice interior touches that make it feel more like a Buick or Camry inside. It also comes with foglights and other goodies which most econoboxes don't offer.

It feels to the Corolla like the Scion Tc feels to the Celica. It's obviously marketed as a better, more useable version of the older design. I'd be amazed if they didn't drop the Corolla entirely in a couple of years due to the Scion and Martix overlap.
 
Is the Vibe/Matrix REALLY that good?

What features abt it are so good?

Just curious....

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege ES and altho its been a
great little car.... cant haul a THING in it. hence
looking at a hatchback style vehicle but something with as good of gas milage as the Protege.
Click to expand...

It's a Corolla engine and underbody with a Subaru
Forester type body on it. The seats fold flat
as a truck bed and it has tie-down points everywhere.
The entire rear cargo area is also covered in tough
but attractive plastic coating, kind of like how the Element is - but not ugly like the Element.

Actually useable to haul construction supplies and
so on, and then it converts back into a family car.
Half minivan, half stationwagon. It is the most
ergonomically friendly car as far as useability in a
wide variety of situations other than maybe a Forester.

But it costs barely more than a Corolla. :) The AWD
is kind of flaky, but the FWD version is great. I like
the Vibe a bit more as the rear hach has a bit more clearance and GM has some nice interior touches that make it feel more like a Buick or Camry inside. It also comes with foglights and other goodies which most econoboxes don't offer.

It feels to the Corolla like the Scion Tc feels to the Celica. It's obviously marketed as a better, more useable version of the older design. I'd be amazed if they didn't drop the Corolla entirely in a couple of years due to the Scion and Martix overlap.
 
Is the Vibe/Matrix REALLY that good?

What features abt it are so good?

Just curious....

I own a 2000 Mazda Protege ES and altho its been a
great little car.... cant haul a THING in it. hence
looking at a hatchback style vehicle but something with as good of gas milage as the Protege.
Click to expand...

It's a Corolla engine and underbody with a Subaru
Forester type body on it. The seats fold flat
as a truck bed and it has tie-down points everywhere.
The entire rear cargo area is also covered in tough
but attractive plastic coating, kind of like how the Element is - but not ugly like the Element.

Actually useable to haul construction supplies and
so on, and then it converts back into a family car.
Half minivan, half stationwagon. It is the most
ergonomically friendly car as far as useability in a
wide variety of situations other than maybe a Forester.

But it costs barely more than a Corolla. :) The AWD
is kind of flaky, but the FWD version is great. I like
the Vibe a bit more as the rear hach has a bit more clearance and GM has some nice interior touches that make it feel more like a Buick or Camry inside. It also comes with foglights and other goodies which most econoboxes don't offer.

It feels to the Corolla like the Scion Tc feels to the Celica. It's obviously marketed as a better, more useable version of the older design. I'd be amazed if they didn't drop the Corolla entirely in a couple of years due to the Scion and Martix overlap.
 
God I wish they offered the Scion here ...I wanna TDrive one of those soooo bad before I buy my C.Sport.

griffin
'97 Corolla SD
'85 Jeep CJ7
 
God I wish they offered the Scion here ...I wanna TDrive one of those soooo bad before I buy my C.Sport.

griffin
'97 Corolla SD
'85 Jeep CJ7
 
God I wish they offered the Scion here ...I wanna TDrive one of those soooo bad before I buy my C.Sport.

griffin
'97 Corolla SD
'85 Jeep CJ7
 
Yet most don't - they have maybe 50-60hp less and weigh a thousand pounds less, plus have half the displacement, and maybe get 35mpg highway.
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All of the small cars that I've driven for more than one tank of fuel got more than 35mpg. A small non-sporty car that only got 27mpg would be pretty poor in fuel economy for that type of car.
 
Yet most don't - they have maybe 50-60hp less and weigh a thousand pounds less, plus have half the displacement, and maybe get 35mpg highway.
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All of the small cars that I've driven for more than one tank of fuel got more than 35mpg. A small non-sporty car that only got 27mpg would be pretty poor in fuel economy for that type of car.
 
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