Coil Spring Compressor Query?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Has anyone used Autozone's loaner coil compressor on the
    suspension coils of an older Civic or Accord?

    My cheap-o Harbor Freight $7 coil spring compressor worked
    pretty well for disassembling my 91 Civic's suspension
    system front coil/damper assemblies. Getting them all back
    together is becoming a nightmare. Seems the claws on the
    tool are too thick and interfere with the dust cover, which
    then interferes with getting enough clearance to get the top
    nut on. The archives indicate at least one person ground
    down this tool's claws and had success. But I have limited
    grinding tools at the moment. Hence I am thinking of
    borrowing Autozone's tool and seeing if it's any better.
    These little Honda coils are tricky, complicating use of an
    already somewhat tricky tool, aggravated by the safety
    precautions necessary when working with a lot of spring
    stored energy.

    Fully relaxed, the driver's side coil is about 1/4-inch
    shorter than the pass side coil. So that explains some of my
    car's non-levelness. The coils will be switched (pass. side
    to dr. side, etc.) when I am done. Then I will observe.

    I also found a severely corroded stabilizer bar bushing on
    the passenger side that I think may explain some uneven tire
    wear I'm having on that side. This will be replaced within
    the next month or so.

    I continue to contemplate a major rebuild of the suspension
    system in the near future...
     
    Elle, Apr 15, 2006
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  2. Elle

    Jim Yanik Guest


    WHY???

    Why not put new springs(or at least springs of EQUAL length) on both
    sides,and *not have to mess with it again*? (and have a level car,too!)

    (see your first paragraph above)

    BTW,springs of unequal length may affect suspension geometry and thus tire
    wear.
     
    Jim Yanik, Apr 15, 2006
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  3. Elle

    Elle Guest

    I don't know what the difference in height is with the
    springs compressed. It's a test.
    I am considering this.

    At the moment, I just need my ride back.

    I have two tentative solutions to my coil compressor problem
    and will report back in the next day or so.
     
    Elle, Apr 15, 2006
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  4. Elle

    Eric Guest

    I would try to get my hands on one of these units http://tinyurl.com/nsede
    (either by renting or borrowing it) or something similar. The shop I used
    to work at used one of these units http://tinyurl.com/rsduq. Although they
    work great, they're clearly not practical for the home owner/weekend
    warrior.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Apr 15, 2006
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  5. Elle

    Elle Guest

    The above links are a hint that going cheap is going to cost
    a person in other ways. Weekend warrior indeed. Operating
    the coil compressor several times wiped my arms out.

    I cut holes in the coil/damper assembly "bases." This is the
    cap-like part that is made of metal, with two bolts coming
    out of it, supported by the car frame. There was no need to
    cut holes in the mounting rubbers that fit into these. The
    "$7 special" coil compressor then worked much better, with
    the claws fitting into the holes. The tool spanned about
    seven coils, which also eased operation.

    I didn't get either of the two shock absorber assemblies all
    lined up right the first time I put each in, so I had to
    recompress, partly disassemble, etc. each. Must be a trick
    for lining things up correctly.

    I switched the coils from dr. side to pass side. Now the
    driver's side is only 1/4-inch lower (vs. 3/4-inch before)
    than the passenger's side. (I checked before and after a
    long test drive.) Eric, like you suggested before, that
    sounds like a bad bushing.

    The ride seemed better. Going over bumps was less of a blow,
    it seemed. (But it could just be the placebo effect.)

    I am going to replace the stabilizer bolts and bushings, per
    my note earlier that one set was badly corroded. The old
    coils' rubber covers were pretty beat up in places, and I'm
    not sure how strong the underlying coils are. (Never mind
    the extra wear and tear on the rubber covers from my efforts
    with the compressor!) Most likely I will buy and install new
    springs, as Jim suggested, for $50 each from Majestic. I
    can't find them new anywhere in town, and the salvage yard
    doesn't have the greatest deal for used ones. I think it's
    quite possible my old springs are at the end of their life
    and I will have a better ride with new ones. Then possibly
    onto a ball joint separator per Tegger's web site. Then
    maybe a shop press as noted before to replace the bushings.

    If the labor today weren't so exhausting, I would have tried
    to document more and put it up on the web site. Next time
    will be a lot easier.

    As always, Eric, I appreciate your sharing your experience.
     
    Elle, Apr 16, 2006
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  6. Elle

    Elle Guest

    John, I follow what you're saying. In my new-ness to this,
    and given how old and somewhat rusty my 91 Civic's springs
    appeared, I was hesitant to put the load on just a few
    coils. Folks with newer springs should go for it, of course.
     
    Elle, Apr 17, 2006
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  7. Elle

    Elle Guest

    John, I follow what you're saying. In my new-ness to this,
    and given how old and somewhat rusty my 91 Civic's springs
    appeared, I was hesitant to put the load on just a few
    coils. Folks with newer springs should go for it, of course.
     
    Elle, Apr 17, 2006
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  8. Elle

    John Guest

    I use those from harbor freight as well and haven't had problems. What I do
    is instead of hanging the hooks on the top of the spring i hang them midway
    so that the hooks don't interfere with the dust cover.
     
    John, Apr 17, 2006
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  9. Elle

    John Guest

    I use those from harbor freight as well and haven't had problems. What I do
    is instead of hanging the hooks on the top of the spring i hang them midway
    so that the hooks don't interfere with the dust cover.
     
    John, Apr 17, 2006
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  10. I bought my new strut/shocks for my '90 accord from autozone
    specifically because they loaned the tool and they knew it because we
    discussed it before I made the purchase. When I got them off and
    began to disassemble them for the replacement it turned out the tool
    they gave me didn't fit. When I went back to get the correct tool
    they said they didn't have one. When I asked what I should do with my
    disassmbled vehicle they pretty much told me they didn't care.

    Went to Advance auto down the street bought one for about $15 and put
    Autozone on my boycott list. They could have bought one, put it in
    their loaner tool stock and kept me as a customer.

    Frank
     
    Frank Boettcher, Apr 17, 2006
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  11. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Ouch. From what I saw in the one class on suspension I took,
    these Honda springs are tiny. Guess that means they're safer
    to work on, but as you found (and as I saw in the class with
    the tools the school offered), getting a tool that will fit
    is tricky.
     
    Elle, Apr 17, 2006
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